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Have you ever fought someone with a knife? Ever been in a situation where someone had a knife? Nobody is eager to go and disarm someone with any kind of weapon and if they have the right mindset, which let's face it they are willing to pull a knife onto a crowd, they can do damage. It's not just about overpowering someone with a knife, they have something that can inflict pain and a response from your subconscious to avoid getting hurt with that again. Having a gun drawn on you and the distress from getting cut with a knife have the same effect on the brain, you know both are dangerous from that point forward. This is something that is taught in not only the military, but law enforcement and private security. You never want to get into a close confrontation where someone has a weapon, avoid it entirely, because even with proper training you should never introduce yourself into a situation with unknown factors.
You seem to be missing the point all anti-gun people make here, and it's a QUANTATIVE point about minimising casualties. How many mass knifings do you know about? There's a reason you hear about mass shootings far more than mass knifings - because a gun is simply the superior weapon in practically every respect. The range, the skill required to use it effectively, the physical damage a bullet does to flesh versus a knife. Every respect. Let's look at this 80 people dead number. Compare it to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attackMaybe you will have more luck finding an example with a better parity to the Nice event than I did. Here we have 8 people wielding knives killing 29 people and leaving 140 injured. Compare that to ONE man killing 80 people and leaving hundreds injured (I don't know the precise number). I mean, we really shouldn't even need to start using stats for this.
Prima facie it should be clear that a gun is a far more superior weapon than a knife. I don't even know why you'd try to argue this point, it only shows how entrenched your own views are.
Not going to touch on this topic anymore because I have argued with friends, family, and strangers on many occasions on why it's not a simple thing we can work towards. It's just not an argument that I have ever witness causing either side to change their view or stance.
You're including yourself in that, right? You also seem just as unwilling to change your view and stance. I wish you wouldn't speak for everyone like that. Me personally I consider my own views on this issue kinda mixed. I'd like to, in my country of Australia, go down to the range and fire some high powered automatic weapons recreationally. That's a right that has been taken away in my country, and I don't like that. But I also am very glad that in our country random people on the street aren't walking around with high powered weapons, and we aren't having a mass shooting every month.
That is why police will often shoot suspects at the slightest hint of seeing a weapon. People might disagree with this method... I would rather have living police officers and a dead suspect that resisted arrest than a dead police officer and a murderer. Any day.
You realise you're advocating the exact opposite of innocent until proven guilty, right? That's why they're called a SUSPECT. I'm sure it's all well and good to say these things when it's not you. Cops shouldn't be able to gun down people with impunity. That's why we have a justice system. You're basically arguing for the police officer to be judge, jury and executioner.
Though you do know what works? An armed civilian shooting the assailant, to which more have died from than the mass shootings that have succeeded.
Maybe I missed this elsewhere but do you have a source on this??
What does the US's constitution even mean anymore? The value of the constitution was the inability to remove content. Suddenly there is not value to the cornerstone of the US's existence. Something must replace it -- what is that something?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_ConstitutionI'm no expert on American law but it seems to me that the right to bear arms
is itself an amendment to this sacred immutable constitution of yours. So if you can make an amendment on the right to bear arms surely you can make another amendment taking that right away???
Post has been edited 4 time(s), last time on Jul 16 2016, 5:18 am by Oh_Man.