Stupid, stupid, really fucking stupid.

"Yeahh let's add leveling to an RTS which provides nothing for the player! All the fanboys who just started playing Starcraft last year will think it's awesome and play more!"

You'd think they'd fix the shitty system that is bnet2 before they began adding worthless stuff like this.

I actually don't think it's bad per se, but there are a whole bunch of things they could fix first before doing stuff like this.

Well, they announced to release multiple features for bnet and made another overhaul to the UI.
They need to have that complete at HotS release, so the returning casuals or the attracted new players keep playing.

Basically it's a better system to make players play more than the achievement system...
Now you can actually see the progress after every game instead of having a counter go up by 1 for a win, etc...

Also, what do you think are the biggest problems remaining in sc2? What should they tackle in your opinion?
I guess names for lobbies might be good... fixing bugs in lobby, maybe changing lobby layout to have a bigger chat (+ making use of widescreen)...
Ingame stream player to Blizzard's tournaments like WCS might help to support esports...
Basically using the best of LoL, Dota2 and old bnet?
Liquid'Sheth made a poll on teamliquid

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I like it.

It's not terrible, It can't hurt, and I can't imagine it was hard to implement. This is fine.

Sure, it's "fine". Shows you were their priorities are at, though. Hint: not fixing Battle.net 2.0.



Popularity system is still in effect.
"Fun Or Not" feature barely ever in use and never updated to be more rewarding or enticing.
Galaxy Editor is still needlessly complicated.
The engine is still uncompressed.
Resources are still harder than a boner to implement properly.
The game now streams map data rather than downloading it once and having it stay there.
The campaign's continuity is still disrupted and nothing has been done to address it, despite multiple opportunities to post-retail.
Melee/ladder skill ceiling is much lower than Brood War's; gameplay is less complex and, like the campaign, caters to a less intelligent audience. Cosmetic leveling systems like this further that issue.

I could go on and on. I suppose I should have just answered your question with my own: What did they tackle?

While it is disheartening to see Blizzard resorting to the old Skinner Box method...
it's not a bad change. Although it is definitely redundant if you think about all the rankings and stuff they've already put in.
This is just pure laziness and again, conservatism. Nothing new, and nothing creative

I definitely agree with pr0ngo.

There also could've been better ones/ways to do this...

The challenges they made that rewards you with portraits were pretty good.
They can simply incorporate those into a progression system. Which I think they did already.

If they were to introduce a leveling system, they need it to actually have some sort of meat... Maybe allow custom games apart from Ladder games, where the leveling system actually gives you stat points in which you can actually level up aspects of the game.
It'd be cool if the leveling system can affect the actual RTS game. Like I can level up and throw all my stats on build time, so everything builds extra fast or something like that. It doesn't need to be balanced, as it's not the Ladder game, so who cares? It's just something that veteran players can meddle with if they want to

Besides, who else is going to be HotS? Especially after the lackluster WoL, only diehard SC fans will buy it.. so why not treat them?

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@Teamliquid poll
I'm glad that custom maps got second in the # of votes. It shows that people are still interested in map making.
With that poll, I can safely say that Blizzard really needs to get their priorities right... I mean, the fanbase has done all the HR work for them already.. they really need to get their heads out of their asses.

I also found this reddit post with a list of things to come...

Diehard sc fans are old gamers that don't like getting low quality games shoved down their throats. The majority of gamers is youngsters that buy everything if it's in, flashy enough or advertised like crazy.
I don't like it anymore than you do, but we're an old fart minority group that game developers don't give a shit about.

Personally, I won't even be getting HotS. I rarely even get on SC2 anymore and when I do, it's just to see my friend's latest map.

I don't think I'll be getting HotS. As much as I'd love to do a let's play of it and rant the entire time, it just isn't worth my time.

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I'm pretty sure someone will do that XD

It's a good motivator for those who like achievements, so I see nothing wrong with it lol. Also looks like they're using different portraits so it'll be a good for people who already collected a lot of portraits in WoL.

It's better to actually get something after a 40 minute game and lose

You'll get a kick out of this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376512

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That was a great read

but honestly nothing to do with this thread