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Mar 28 2012, 2:04 am
By: Fire_Kame
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Mar 28 2012, 2:04 am Fire_Kame Post #1

a left leaning coexistence nut

I'm not a scientist, so it isn't that I can speak on any great expertise on any subject.

But there are some "theories" that I find intriguing. I can't say I believe any of them. But I can't rule it out entirely because I don't know enough about the subjects to choose beyond a doubt to believe any one day.

Anyways, I know some of you are more involved with science, history, geology, etc. so you might have your own spin or view of things.

But are there any theories that people think are completely out there that you find might have some validity?
Here are some common conspiracies:

Ancient Astronauts
Did Aliens Build the Pyramids
Baghdad Battery
Stonehenge

Government Agencies
HAARP Conspiracy
WTC Conspiracy
Project Blue Beam
DIA Conspiracy
Project Enoch


Past Civilizations
Lost Lands

More Aliens
Annunaki

Abductions
Indigo Children

If you have other videos or links please tell me and I'll post them here. I know this seems a lot like a "toast your youtube" thread but I used youtube because its easiest to find virus free inforation on the conspiracies. Although the language is loaded (like anything with jesse ventura, for example), I hope you'll put your critical thinking caps on. The topic of discussion is what conspiracies have you heard do you find validity in them, etc.




Mar 28 2012, 2:23 am Azrael Post #2



Global Warming




Mar 28 2012, 3:10 am Sacrieur Post #3

Still Napping




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None of the ones you mentioned, Kame, have any credibility.



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Mar 28 2012, 3:15 am Lanthanide Post #4



HAARP in particular is a load of cobblers.



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Mar 28 2012, 5:19 am Azrael Post #5



Quote from Sacrieur
None of the ones you mentioned have any credibility.

I knew you would agree with global warming being on the list.

Here's some hilarious supplemental material.

CRU publicly attacks Heartland in light of stolen documents, saying that Heartland was okay with them being attacked when they had documents stolen, so it's okay for them to attack Heartland.

CRU found to be the ones who stole and leaked the documents in the first place :lol:

I know I trust these guys, I can certainly see why anyone would zealously defend them and their reports and the raw data they have previously released with their promise it is accurate. I mean some organization with no ability to be manipulated or reason to be impartial investigated them at some point, clearly they are above anything underhanded or deceitful.

I'm glad I'm not one of those sheep that considers the possibility the data has been skewed in any way at any point in time, that any data has even been purposely misrepresented by another human being, or that our inferences based on that data could be inaccurate to an unknown degree.

I'd hate to be one of those idiots. It's so empowering to know everything that is and will ever be with total certainty.




Mar 28 2012, 5:32 am Vrael Post #6



I'll throw my poop into this coming shitstorm:

http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/cetml1659on.dat

Actual temperature data from 1659 collected in central england. Make of it what you will.



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Mar 28 2012, 9:39 pm Tempz Post #7



I actually believe in some of this stuff of course not all of it...



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Mar 28 2012, 9:58 pm Fire_Kame Post #8

a left leaning coexistence nut

Quote from Tempz
I actually believe in some of this stuff of course not all of it...
go on...




Mar 28 2012, 10:27 pm UnholyUrine Post #9



While some evidence may be interesting and even Tempting
always weigh them against the evidence that supports the other side.

That being said, without even looking at the videos, I can say that none of these are able to outweigh the counter-evidence.



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Mar 28 2012, 10:28 pm IskatuMesk Post #10

Lord of the Locker Room

My grandmother is a firm believer in pretty much everything you listed. Like, hysterically serious. She also believes in conspiracies regarding hospitals and doctors "farming" money out of people (with half of the diseases being man-made or at least controlled entirely by healthcare to suck money out of people), and has cycled through about a dozen iterations of what will happen in 2012, currently settling in aliens who have "bases all over the planet because their planet is dying". You couldn't find enough tin foil on the planet to protect her.

I personally think all of them are ludicrous but I've no care to argue with people about it, so I just smile and nod.



Show them your butt, and when you do, slap it so it creates a sound akin to a chorus of screaming spider monkeys flogging a chime with cacti. Only then can you find your destiny at the tip of the shaft.

Mar 29 2012, 2:22 am Tempz Post #11



Quote from Fire_Kame
Quote from Tempz
I actually believe in some of this stuff of course not all of it...
go on...
Intentional cliffhanger =3... You've just been kamed oh wait.

But to be honest i wanted to explain my views on it... but i figured it get too much troll.



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Mar 29 2012, 2:35 am Sacrieur Post #12

Still Napping

There are better things to do than watch uneducated peoples distort facts and outright lie to confirm ill-conceived beliefs formed on speculation and irrationality.



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Mar 29 2012, 2:41 am Fire_Kame Post #13

a left leaning coexistence nut

Quote from Sacrieur
There are better things to do than watch uneducated peoples distort facts and outright lie to confirm ill-conceived beliefs formed on speculation and irrationality.

Here's what I think.

I think it is good to watch people distort facts, especially ones that are indisputable. It builds critical reading and thinking skills.




Mar 29 2012, 3:35 am Oh_Man Post #14

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Creationism, astrology, fortune telling, acupuncture, 'natural remedies'.




Mar 29 2012, 3:40 am Sacrieur Post #15

Still Napping

Yeah damn you Salix alba, you don't really make people feel better right? :<



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Mar 29 2012, 7:01 am Tempz Post #16



@Sacrieur
Why are you using latin words for trees sac; are you trying to subtly troll us? :kame:



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Mar 29 2012, 7:29 am Sacrieur Post #17

Still Napping

Quote from Tempz
@Sacrieur
Why are you using latin words for trees sac; are you trying to subtly troll us? :kame:

Pointing out that not all natural remedies are bogus.



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Mar 30 2012, 1:35 am Oh_Man Post #18

Find Me On Discord (Brood War UMS Community & Staredit Network)






Mar 30 2012, 1:59 am Lanthanide Post #19



Try this one, it's better.





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Mar 30 2012, 8:52 am matefkr Post #20



the HAARP one might be interesting, as well as the hologram thing. I know that the hologram thing about relegious stuff is quite possible technically.
im not sure about the HAARP thing in particular because i dont know how much long wave electromagnetic wave will he ionosphere reflect. Knowing that would settle the matter. If its able to reflect huge amounts, its still good besides probably being uneconomic, since noone would notice it besides hobbiist who still use longwave radio. (but they notice storms as well, so wouldnt suspect).



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m.0.n.3.y -- Here's another question. I'm using switch randomization for powerups. There are 9 powerups, and I only want any of the powerups to appear only about 30% of the time. So I was just going to use 5 switches for a total of 32 options and have the other 23 results restart the randomization process. Is there a better way to do this?
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m.0.n.3.y -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: m.0.n.3.y Pro and Demon already gave correct answers, but let me add a pretty elegant way: Have the detection trigger owned by whoever is convenient for you. A single computer player, a force, all players - it doesn't matter. Now detect for the arbiter in conditions - also doesn't really matter how. In actions just set a dc to 1 for all players or the force that should have the text displayed. It will set the dc for each player to 1 individually. Because of this you can make a 2nd trigger that checks for the dc for current player and remove the dc for current player afterwards.
Ok that makes perfect sense NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: This method also has a bonus use: If you detect the arbiter in conditions for current player (set trigger owned accordingly!) then you can do the following: Add 1 to dc for current player AND add 1 to dc for all players. And in your 2nd trigger you can distinguish between players that just are informed and the player that actually had it, because their dc will be 2 instead of 1. So you can give them an additional reward or something dynamically.
Wow that's awesome! I'll definitely be doing this. Thanks for the tip, that's really cool
[05:29 pm]
NudeRaider -- This method also has a bonus use: If you detect the arbiter in conditions for current player (set trigger owned accordingly!) then you can do the following: Add 1 to dc for current player AND add 1 to dc for all players. And in your 2nd trigger you can distinguish between players that just are informed and the player that actually had it, because their dc will be 2 instead of 1. So you can give them an additional reward or something dynamically.
[05:27 pm]
NudeRaider -- m.0.n.3.y
m.0.n.3.y shouted: NEW QUESTION: How is it possible to show text to all players when something occurs? EX: Player 1 builds an Arbiter. Trigger says, When player 1 builds an Arbiter, do something, then remove the Arbiter. Now, I'd like text to show for all other players when P1 builds an Arbiter that says "P1 built an arbiter!". But how is this possible when the the original trigger that detects if P1 built an Arbiter then removes the Arbiter in it's actions? Like, the Arbiter is detected as built, then Action occurs for P1, then Arbiter is removed. So how can you detect if the Arbiter is built to show text to the other plays saying "P1 built an Arbiter" if the other trigger quickly removes the Arbiter? Does that make sense?
Pro and Demon already gave correct answers, but let me add a pretty elegant way: Have the detection trigger owned by whoever is convenient for you. A single computer player, a force, all players - it doesn't matter. Now detect for the arbiter in conditions - also doesn't really matter how. In actions just set a dc to 1 for all players or the force that should have the text displayed. It will set the dc for each player to 1 individually. Because of this you can make a 2nd trigger that checks for the dc for current player and remove the dc for current player afterwards.
[05:22 pm]
NudeRaider -- that's why the All Players thing is neat: When one player runs a wait, their copy of hypers will actually be blocked. But the hyper effect will not be disrupted because the hypers of all the other players are still running.
[05:21 pm]
NudeRaider -- *running at the same time for the same player.
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NudeRaider -- m.0.n.3.y
m.0.n.3.y shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Shit. Ok what are the exact circumstances where using wait triggers causes wait blocks and messes things up? EX: If player 8 is a computer and has hyper triggers at the bottom of his list, can I use a few of triggers on each human player 1-6 with a few waits each lasting 50 - 1000ms? I've read the articles in SEN Wiki but still not super clear on it :/
simple: 2 waits running at the same time. Hyper triggers constantly block each other, but they have no other purpose than to force another trigger loop, and stay in that "blocking each other" state as long as possible (=NEO)
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NudeRaider -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: It's recommended to never use waits if you have hyper triggers.
yes and no. If you have to ask: yes. If you know what you're doing, you can use them in a non-disruptive manner.
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NudeRaider -- m.0.n.3.y
m.0.n.3.y shouted: ALSO: @NudeRaider for your "other setup" you mean give the hypers to the "All Players" player checkbox, not to each player individually, right?
That's equivalent. At the start of a game sc parses triggers and creates copies of triggers owned by player groups (forces and all players) to each player that is part of that group. During runtime there's only individual trigger owners.
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m.0.n.3.y -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: That won't work. And it's one extra trigger with 2 actions. Hardly extra work.
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