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Aftermath of Osama Bin Laden's death
May 2 2011, 8:37 pm
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May 11 2011, 10:08 pm Lanthanide Post #101



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The same thing happened to Hitler in "Neo Fascism" however it could be a infection that will heal over time like communism (which on lasted for about 100 years (minus 4 nations).
I don't really understand this point. People still use "communist" or "socialist" like its a derogatory term. We may not have McCarthy-era communist witch hunts anymore, but there is still quite a bit of prejudice. :/
Because there are huge numbers of ignorant people think 'communist' and 'socialist' are derogatory terms, and the most offensive thing you can call someone. This is largely an American phenomenon though. In Europe you're more likely to be called a 'fascist' as an insult.

Frankly I think the fact that coin collecting is incredibly rampant in America (prime-time ads advertising coin collecting, for example) sort of indicates a veneration of capitalism verging on the religious.



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May 11 2011, 10:21 pm DevliN Post #102

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The same thing happened to Hitler in "Neo Fascism" however it could be a infection that will heal over time like communism (which on lasted for about 100 years (minus 4 nations).
I don't really understand this point. People still use "communist" or "socialist" like its a derogatory term. We may not have McCarthy-era communist witch hunts anymore, but there is still quite a bit of prejudice. :/
Because there are huge numbers of ignorant people think 'communist' and 'socialist' are derogatory terms, and the most offensive thing you can call someone.
Right, that's why I'm confused about communism being an "infection that [has] heal[ed] over time."



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May 12 2011, 12:21 am TiKels Post #103



Perhaps he was just saying that communism is a flawed form of government that has faded out (to his approval)?



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May 12 2011, 12:42 am DevliN Post #104

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Ah, alright, that makes more sense. I didn't at lall get that from his post. :(



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May 13 2011, 4:10 pm Tempz Post #105



Tikels got what i was saying... :(



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May 13 2011, 6:07 pm DevliN Post #106

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Yeah, I didn't get the connection to government as you had mentioned Hitler in the sentence prior and in the following post said you were talking about how someone will take Osama's place. I thought you were just talking about communism as a belief.



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May 27 2011, 8:27 pm Tempz Post #107



I was not talking about communism as a belief becuase communism in my mind a few steps away from anarchy (or atleast close to it) as all it does is promote the ideal that there can only be two class of people; poor and rich. Whereas democracy (which i support) tends to put everyone in the middle ground.



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May 27 2011, 8:46 pm DevliN Post #108

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I was not talking about communism as a belief becuase communism in my mind a few steps away from anarchy (or atleast close to it) as all it does is promote the ideal that there can only be two class of people; poor and rich. Whereas democracy (which i support) tends to put everyone in the middle ground.
Actually communism is supposed to promote the ideal that there are no classes of people. It is ideally a classless society.

The use of communism in Russia or Cuba should not be seen as the definition of the idea of communism.



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May 27 2011, 9:12 pm Tempz Post #109



Really communism is actually different from the radical Russian and Cuban ideals?
I never knew that 0_o.

In either situation i don't like communism.



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May 28 2011, 5:52 am Roy Post #110

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Really communism is actually different from the radical Russian and Cuban ideals?
I never knew that 0_o.

In either situation i don't like communism.
You can't say for sure that you dislike communism if you're unsure of what communism is. I would recommend you do a little research on these topics before trying to speak for or against them. You may have prematurely determined your beliefs on communism from media bias.

By the way, the class system you despise (rich and poor) is found in most democratic governments because it is coexisting with capitalism.

Steering back on topic, I don't think "neo-terrorism" will arise. Terrorism is a broad enough term to cover nearly any form of hostility, anyway, so what would neo-terrorism be?

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In fact, US support for Israel seems to be the main grievance of Muslim terrorists - it's mainly to do with land and not religion.
Isn't Israel considered "The Holy Land"? You can't separate the land from religion when the area is believed to be sacred.




May 28 2011, 6:33 am Fire_Kame Post #111

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In fact, US support for Israel seems to be the main grievance of Muslim terrorists - it's mainly to do with land and not religion.
Isn't Israel considered "The Holy Land"? You can't separate the land from religion when the area is believed to be sacred.

First I would like to warn you not to argue US/Israeli politics with Will because he's the closest thing we have to an expert on it, and you're asking for it! :P

But also, it goes much deeper than than Jewish religious views of Israel. Since its birth it has been swimming in international politics. Honestly, the amount of aid/promised aid the US gives Israel is...foolish, and the country is not clean of transgressions - namely against the Arab world. I am under the impression that the Arab world view the US in this matter as saying one thing and doing another - we say we welcome all people who believe anything, and then we fund a very aggressive nation that in the past has done many things to hurt them.




May 28 2011, 8:47 pm Tempz Post #112



After Devlin's comment i did research communism... I only said that statement becuase i thought i understood it, i was wrong and so i did research.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on May 30 2011, 12:06 am by Tempz.



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May 30 2011, 5:44 pm BiOAtK Post #113



Anyways, to get back on topic, I think Osama's gonna be rezzed and come back as a zombie knight.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on May 30 2011, 6:05 pm by NudeRaider. Reason: deleted the post you responded to



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Jun 4 2011, 1:55 am rayNimagi Post #114



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Anyways, to get back on topic, I think Osama's gonna be rezzed and come back as a zombie knight.

According to the Onion, he rose out of the sea and ravaged the East Coast last week.



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