http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

This video is quite a perspective changer. It can make you look at things differently, which is always good. If you have a spare 2 hours (im sure most of you do), then watch this. If not, try skipping through and listen to a few minutes at a time.
I admit it may get pretty kooky at the end, but I feel like the video makes some pretty amazing points.

3 parts.
-1st, it ends probably around 35 minutes. It's main point is that most religion is based directly off of astrology and was made to control the masses.
-2nd, ends at 1:10. It explains that Americans were lied to about 9/11. The events the government described in the 9/11 commission report are disproved. This video can be quite convincing. Trust me, I don't want to believe it, but I think I do.
-3rd, the movie explains how events like 9/11 before WWI, WWII and the Vietname war were used (or created) to lead the U.S. in to profitable wars. "The men behind the curtain" are all to blame, mostly being part of the federal bank, and plan to create (this is the wacky part) a "one-world government".

From this video, I have become more aware of how 1) religion is total BS (sorry believers), 2) 9/11 may really be from an inside job, and 3)Americans should be much more weary of what our government is doing, and what it actually plans for.

Things to possibly post about:
Tell me what things from this video may have made you think differently.
Tell me how involved government may be with such conspiracy, in your mind.
Tell me how narrow minded you are by calling me a faithless heathen who is betraying our precious and blessed country.

Damn it, it's faithless heathens like you who are bringing down American society. You want to know why the world is going down hill? Because of faithless heathens like you. There's not enough religion anymore, no one has any morals anymore. We need the government to go back to being based on good Christian morals. These videos are just the work of the devil.

I like you a lot more now than I used to, Devilesk.

That video sucked.

Meh, you're kind of anti-religious yourself [ Notice the avatar and signature ]. Anyway I didn't watch it because I don't believe in things like hell, but I do believe in a superior being that, I don't know, created us?

It's called sarcasm. If you can't realize that it was, then wow.


I don't see how this video could prove to you religion is total BS if it already hasn't been proven to you through common sense. Also, just because you see it in a video, that is purposely designed to persuade you into believing all the things that you now believe, does not make it true. If you saw a video with the exact opposite goals of persuasion in mind, it appears you'd believe that just as much.

Believe what you want, but before you claim something to be a load of bullshit, get a firm understanding of it first.

Cool. So not one of the points made in that really counteracts anything said about 9/11 in Zeitgeist except one guy saying, there wasn't evidence of bombs found (which is obviously disputed).
Don't call me a jackass.


I never said prove. Besides, maybe I was talking more about how I understand where it came from more, and now more fully believe it was made to control the masses. Theres nothing wrong with learning of new clout to pack into my argument is there?

Your face sucked. Try contributing something else.

So has anybody actually watched this?


EDIT: For the record, I would like people to understand my views on this "9/11 conspiracy" shit. I do not accept it as truth. Nor do I accept the commission report as anything near truth. If you can, tell me how. I do, however, keep an open mind in await of a true answer.
Until then, if I hear "You're un-American", "You're insulting people who died", etc. I will call you an idiot. I did'nt know it was a shame to look for answers besides possible lies about people's deaths. What are investigations all about for a murder? I am hardly un-American to be a watchdog against the power. In fact, our country is in damn good need of some watchdogs. The government buddied up with the media. Great. Then who's looking out to question everything the government does? We have to. That's what I'm doing, but somehow I have to get my voice out to the public better.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 25 2007, 1:33 pm by yenku.

Awsome, reply you should go into journalism man.
The video has so many propagandistic views that I turned it off in the first 15mins rather then listen to torture.

JordanN, you're not fooling anyone when you tell them you can spot propaganda.


Sounds fine to me.

Ow... my ears... the ignorance...

Care to enlighten me? Or just try to insult me?

Not bad, but I think you can do better. start taking notes from shinra. I want 'off the walls' crazy.