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Yes, and about advertisement, have you made a purchase based on emotion?

None.

So you have never used smoked, never drunk Coke or Pepsi, never purchased bottled water, nor Nike or Adidas shoes, and in fact have never purchased any name brand product over a generic one?

I sure as hell know I have done some of those, not even realizing it until later.

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Yes, and about advertisement, have you made a purchase based on emotion?

None.

So you have never used smoked, never drunk Coke or Pepsi, never purchased bottled water, nor Nike or Adidas shoes, and in fact have never purchased any name brand product over a generic one?

I sure as hell know I have done some of those, not even realizing it until later.

Well, lets see:

I don't smoke Cigarettes, they're death sticks.
I don't drink Coke, cause it tastes like shit. I don't drink Pepsi anymore, cause I don't need soda anymore
I've purchased a bottle of water, yes.
Nike is for wanna-be jocks, Adidas (All Day I Dream About Sex) never wanted a pair
Brand name, generic name, it doesn't matter to me.


I've purchased all things in my life WITHOUT being brainwashed by the advertisments that you're trying to say ALL Americans have been brainwashed by.


Just because you're weak-willed, doesn't mean I am.


I purchase items in accordance to my needs, not my wants


And their MY NEEDS. Not the "needs" that commercials say I "need".



Swayed by a commercial? Rather pathetic if you ask me.

EDIT: Double post.

If you ever bought bottled water or soft drinks, when your municipal water supply was not contaminated, you WERE swayed by advertisement. I have not made purchase decisions on the basis of brand names in over 10 years, but I will not deny that I made them before I learned to know better. If advertisements did not work, they would not exist.

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If you ever bought bottled water or soft drinks, when your municipal water supply was not contaminated, you WERE swayed by advertisement. I have not made purchase decisions on the basis of brand names in over 10 years, but I will not deny that I made them before I learned to know better. If advertisements did not work, they would not exist.

With that skewed logic, if the A/C unit in a car didn't work, the car wouldn't work.

And I'm sorry, but I used to drink from a Well when I was back in Idaho (lived there up until I was 18) and now I drink from the nasty tap-water, so your claim is falliable.


As I read this over and over, I just have to laugh at how hard you're trying to convince people that if they buy something out of necessity, they've been influenced by advertisements.



For your information, I wasn't swayed by advertisements to go out and find myself some Turn Tables.

I wasn't swayed by advertisement to go and find myself my large collection of Electronic Music CDs. (and both these mentioned things, are necessities to me. Maybe wants to other individuals)



Like I said before: Just cause you succumbed to advertisements, doesn't mean everyone else did.


That's a logical fallacy. And if I'm not mistakened, that's what you're trying to say.. Sooo, nice fallacy

You claim to have never in your life made a purchase that was not out of necessity?

I am sorry, but you have no credibility. If you do not understand the mechanisms by which your decisions are influenced and how advertisements affect those mechanisms, there is little to no possibility of your evading their influence entirely. It is far more likely you make that claim in order to avoid confronting some kind of assumption you have about your consciousness.

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I wasn't swayed by advertisement to go and find myself my large collection of Electronic Music CDs. (and both these mentioned things, are necessities to me. Maybe wants to other individuals)

Just because you call something that you want a need doesn't make it one. A need is generally defined as something that is a necessity to live, not something that you happen to like a lot.

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I wasn't swayed by advertisement to go and find myself my large collection of Electronic Music CDs. (and both these mentioned things, are necessities to me. Maybe wants to other individuals)

Just because you call something that you want a need doesn't make it one. A need is generally defined as something that is a necessity to live, not something that you happen to like a lot.

You think I don't know this? That's why I said: "wants to other people"

If you read my post, you'd see that. And you'd see that I still have not fallen to the "appeal of emotions" that AntiSleep insists commercials make people do.

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You think I don't know this? That's why I said: "wants to other people"

Apparently you don't, because you think that CDs are a necessity in your life. I wasn't claiming that you thought CDs were a need for everyone, nor did I ever imply that. But you think it is a need for you, and I told you that you can't just call anything you want a need. Needs are typically universal, wants are not.

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If you ever bought bottled water or soft drinks, when your municipal water supply was not contaminated, you WERE swayed by advertisement. I have not made purchase decisions on the basis of brand names in over 10 years, but I will not deny that I made them before I learned to know better. If advertisements did not work, they would not exist.

With that skewed logic, if the A/C unit in a car didn't work, the car wouldn't work.

And I'm sorry, but I used to drink from a Well when I was back in Idaho (lived there up until I was 18) and now I drink from the nasty tap-water, so your claim is falliable.


As I read this over and over, I just have to laugh at how hard you're trying to convince people that if they buy something out of necessity, they've been influenced by advertisements.



For your information, I wasn't swayed by advertisements to go out and find myself some Turn Tables.

I wasn't swayed by advertisement to go and find myself my large collection of Electronic Music CDs. (and both these mentioned things, are necessities to me. Maybe wants to other individuals)



Like I said before: Just cause you succumbed to advertisements, doesn't mean everyone else did.


That's a logical fallacy. And if I'm not mistakened, that's what you're trying to say.. Sooo, nice fallacy

So what do you do in your spare time?

EDIT: Besides listen to Korn. (ADIDAS)

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If you ever bought bottled water or soft drinks, when your municipal water supply was not contaminated, you WERE swayed by advertisement. I have not made purchase decisions on the basis of brand names in over 10 years, but I will not deny that I made them before I learned to know better. If advertisements did not work, they would not exist.

With that skewed logic, if the A/C unit in a car didn't work, the car wouldn't work.

And I'm sorry, but I used to drink from a Well when I was back in Idaho (lived there up until I was 18) and now I drink from the nasty tap-water, so your claim is falliable.


As I read this over and over, I just have to laugh at how hard you're trying to convince people that if they buy something out of necessity, they've been influenced by advertisements.



For your information, I wasn't swayed by advertisements to go out and find myself some Turn Tables.

I wasn't swayed by advertisement to go and find myself my large collection of Electronic Music CDs. (and both these mentioned things, are necessities to me. Maybe wants to other individuals)



Like I said before: Just cause you succumbed to advertisements, doesn't mean everyone else did.


That's a logical fallacy. And if I'm not mistakened, that's what you're trying to say.. Sooo, nice fallacy

So what do you do in your spare time?

EDIT: Besides listen to Korn. (ADIDAS)

Do work on my website, when my laptop was working, I compose original Electronic Music tracks. I also would program, play some NES a tiny bit (gotta go old school when you're bored) and write more into my trilogy's history.

What about you?

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You think I don't know this? That's why I said: "wants to other people"

Apparently you don't, because you think that CDs are a necessity in your life. I wasn't claiming that you thought CDs were a need for everyone, nor did I ever imply that. But you think it is a need for you, and I told you that you can't just call anything you want a need. Needs are typically universal, wants are not.

Who said needs are typically universal? Man

What did man create?

Words.

Did they create perception? Nein.

Well, you could get technical, and say that they created a word to describe that process that our brain goes through, yes..

But my point being, I don't consider CDs a want to me, because in my perception, they are necesities (Because music has saved my life)

Annnnnnd I await your response to me, saying that I'm crazy

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You're crazy. And I await the awe and shock of people seeing a Republican exchanging friendly comments with a German Democrat such as yourself.

Well I played football for my JV team but our last game is friday, so I'll have some more time. Probably play around with friends, play Xbox 360, comment this thread, surf the webernet, go on AIM-myspace-facebook, get a blowjob, listen to music, etc.

So you're like a technology guy, I see. Do you know how to make, say, animated movies?

I am not German, I am of German heritage.

I know more Spanish than I know German, lol.

In what kind of program? Flash or 3D Studio Max?


Speaking of which, I'm going to get myself some nice loving after class, from my girlfriend

Yeah. staging 9/11. ignoring the warnings about it.
true president right there.

oh we can't forget the most protected president ever.
you know. the one that knows what the people are going to ask him in his interviews before they ask. Most scripted president FTW

I pronounce this thread a success and "dead."