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Graphic Card
Aug 31 2010, 12:29 am
By: payne  

Aug 31 2010, 12:29 am payne Post #1

:payne:

I find it sad my CPU lags with my current SC2 Graphic Settings. Shaders and Light are at High, the rest is mainly at Medium.

1) How do I know what is my Graphic Card?
2) What kind of card would be suggested to play without any lag on those graphics? I don't want to play at Ultra, it'd make me waste too much muney on this new Graph. Card :P I dun has ca$h a lot.
3) What other CPU performances will be enhanced with a new Graph. Card aside from running SC 2 without lag? :P



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Aug 31 2010, 12:35 am Jack Post #2

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

1:Download CPU-Z http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Go to the Graphics tab. Screenshot it if you want to show it to us, if not just take a look.

2: Ex or rockz will have an opinion on this fo' shore.

3: A new graphics card won't make your CPU run better.



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Aug 31 2010, 12:41 am payne Post #3

:payne:

Quote from Jack
3: A new graphics card won't make your CPU run better.
It won't even improve the rendering of some 3D programs or such?
I mean, what will it affect, -anything-, aside from StarCraft II program's performances.

And I dun wanna download sumting :hurr:



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Aug 31 2010, 12:44 am Jack Post #4

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

Quote from payne
Quote from Jack
3: A new graphics card won't make your CPU run better.
It won't even improve the rendering of some 3D programs or such?
I mean, what will it affect, -anything-, aside from StarCraft II program's performances.

And I dun wanna download sumting :hurr:
It will improve the rendering of 3D programs, yes. It won't improve your CPU performance, but it will improve your COMPUTER performance, especially when running graphics-intensive applications, such as games or art programs.

If you don't want to download something, go to Start->Control Panel->Hardware (or device monitor or whatever it is on windows) then look for something along the lines of a Display Adapter, or Graphics card or something. It should say either Radeon something or Geforce something unless you're on a laptop or using an onboard graphics card.



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Aug 31 2010, 2:54 am NudeRaider Post #5

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Quote from payne
And I dun wanna download sumting :hurr:
No need to distrust CPU-Z. It's not embedding itself deeply into your system, is extremely lightweight and super fast and easy to install.

But if you insist press [Windows] + R and enter "dxdiag".
Nowadays most cards can help your CPU calculate stuff, but the program needs to support it afaik. For more information check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA or google for CUDA.

Basically any gamer graphics card you can buy as new in stores is capable of running SC2 at Ultra. You don't need to spend a lot of money for high performance cards. SC2 is very resource friendly, like any Blizzard game. However it would help to know your CPU, and RAM to know which card is best suited for your system. (It's really not so much about SC2, but more what is reasonable given your other hardware.)




Aug 31 2010, 3:27 am rockz Post #6

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

cpuz doesn't install. It's just one file. dxdiag will tell you what card you have too, but not nearly as well as something like gpuz.



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Aug 31 2010, 3:31 am payne Post #7

:payne:

By typing what Nude said, I found out "ATI Radeon HD 4350". :O
How to know my RAM/etc. ? :><:

And btw, I always thought "CPU" meant "Computer" :O



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Aug 31 2010, 3:32 am Jack Post #8

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

Quote from payne
By typing what Nude said, I found out "ATI Radeon HD 4350". :O
How to know my RAM/etc. ? :><:

And btw, I always thought "CPU" meant "Computer" :O
If you refuse to download CPU-Z (which you should, it'd be so much faster) then you can find RAM etc by looking at Control Panel->Hardware or whatever it is, it has a bunch of basic info there.

:facepalm: no son, CPU != computer.



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Aug 31 2010, 3:38 am Centreri Post #9

Relatively ancient and inactive

... LOL.

CPU = Central Processing Unit. Your processor.
GPU = Graphics Processing Unit (or something). Graphics-specific processor.
Computer = Motherboard, CPU, GPU, Hard Drive, whatever else you want.

"I find it sad my CPU lags with my current SC2 Graphic Settings" <--- This makes more sense now.



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Aug 31 2010, 3:48 am NudeRaider Post #10

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Quote from payne
How to know my RAM/etc. ? :><:
dxdiag
- OR -
Right click "my computer" - properties




Aug 31 2010, 3:58 am MasterJohnny Post #11



Quote from payne
By typing what Nude said, I found out "ATI Radeon HD 4350". :O
How to know my RAM/etc. ? :><:

And btw, I always thought "CPU" meant "Computer" :O
Lay off the Japanese arcade games!!!

Your card is 64bit width interface which really sucks!
Do know the wattage of your power supply?
If greater than 400 watts http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131361



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Aug 31 2010, 4:54 am payne Post #12

:payne:

2.93 GHz and 6Gb of RAM. :O

MJ, that shit costs 80 bucks. D:



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Aug 31 2010, 5:46 am Excalibur Post #13

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You aren't going to touch a decent GPU for under 70$.




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Aug 31 2010, 6:25 am MasterJohnny Post #14



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131342
This one is $80 but is $60 with rebate assuming you buy it tomorrow?

It is probably better to wait and check around at the beginning of September for new rebate stuff. :|



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Aug 31 2010, 3:06 pm payne Post #15

:payne:

Fuck that, I'm too poor. Me keep my GC :hurr:.



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Aug 31 2010, 4:44 pm rockz Post #16

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

I found a 9800 GT for $80-$30MIR, which is the 8th best graphics tier. To compare, I have a 14th tier graphics. The 5570 is 10th, unless it's ddr5, and then it's 9th. Your 4350 is 20th, and the minimum specs (a 9800 pro) are 21st. You're barely over the minimum, so play at minimum specs.

Oh, this is what you can expect from upgrading certain components:

CPU: generally everything is faster. More cores means less slowdown when multitasking.
Video Card: better rendering of 3d images, mainly found in games, though effects like aero and direct3d/directdraw will slightly increase in performance (negligible really).
RAM: More memory means more stability and faster response times if you're consistently using more than your previous max memory. Faster memory makes these operations even faster, though the difference in speed is negligible compared to CPU speed.
Hard Drive: An SSD will greatly increase access time (from 10 ms to .1 ms) which increases the overall responsiveness of the system when booting, loading stuff. A faster transfer rate simply decreases the time it takes to load larger things/transfer files.
PSU: stability if you're encountering problems. Other than that, efficiency. A 650 W PSU can easily be 3x better than a 1000 W PSU, especially if the 1000 W PSU was mislabeled (it happens).
Case/Heat sinks/fans/motherboard: Cooling and stability, as well as extra parts, and making it look cool.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 31 2010, 4:55 pm by rockz.



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Aug 31 2010, 8:41 pm payne Post #17

:payne:

Quote from rockz
$80-$30MIR
How am I supposed to interpret this?



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Aug 31 2010, 9:49 pm NudeRaider Post #18

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Mail in rebate. When I understand it correctly you pay $30 less if you send them the money via mail.




Aug 31 2010, 10:23 pm Excalibur Post #19

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Quote from NudeRaider
Mail in rebate. When I understand it correctly you pay $30 less if you send them the money via mail.
Incorrect.

After you buy the product you may send in a form and they will reimburse you for the amount stated. Sort of a cash-back for buying their product. Note that this takes a few weeks, if not longer.




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Aug 31 2010, 11:04 pm ShadowFlare Post #20



For some rebates it can even take 4 months (according to what is stated on the rebate form).



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