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Snowball Wars: Frostbite

Creator: fat_flying_pigs
Time: Aug 14 2010, 8:24 am

Post #1     fat_flying_pigs Aug 14 2010, 8:24 am

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PROJECT ABANDONED.


Snowball Wars: Frostbite

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Players: 5v5 (or less)
Map Size: 242x248
Gameplay: You and you team must use micro and macro to shatter your opponents igloos. You gain minerals every 20 kills. Use minerals to upgrade your units, buy heroes, and buy base defence. This is a very skill intensive game. Noobs will meet a swift and painful death.


Basic Units:
Some units can heal at .5 hp per second.
Igloo (bunker): 2010 HP, 20 Armor, Armored Massive; 1 life regen per 20 seconds; Effect: Warm Bodies: the warm bodies generate heat and melt the igloo; too many units near an igloo will cause it to take constant damage.
Long Range Snowball (Ghost): 3 HP, 1+1 Attack, 7 Range, 9.5 Vision, Light Bio; Ability: Snipe (435): Does 2 (+1 to psionic) damage, range of 8.5. cooldown of 60 seconds. Upgrade: Cloak, cost: ?? (a lot)
Rapid Snowball (Marine): 5 HP, 3+1 Attack +1 to shields, 5 Range, 6 Vision, Light Bio Psionic; Ability: Stimpack: Reduces life to 1 and grants typical stim effect and +2 dmg vs structures; Upgrade: increase weapon range by 1
Quick Snowball (Zergling): 10 HP, 5+1 Attack, 0 Range, Light Bio; Life Regen; Upgrade: Movement Speed, Attack Rate, and the (zealot) charge ability. Ability: Morph to banneling, forms armored egg with more hp. Canceling the egg will kill the zergling.
Snow Mobile (Vulture): 7 HP, 5+1 Attack +5 vs Light, 6 Range, Hoover Armored Mech; Hoover; Proximity Mine: 3 mines per unit, is a spider mine. Upgrade: Gives the vulture 2(?) shields.
Proximity Mine (Spider Mine): 10 HP, 6 Attack +6 vs Light, 3 Range, 4.5 Vision, Light Mech;
Spine Snowball (Hydra): 8 HP, 6+1 Attack +6 vs Armored, 5 Range, Armored; Standard Life Regen; Upgrade: Morph venomous snowball (super baneling) (buy hero venomous snowball to research).
Snow Melter (Firebat): 15 HP, 9+2 Attack +9+2 vs Light, 2 Armor, 2 Range, 6 Vision, Light; Stim: Reduces life to 5 and grants typical stim effect and +1 armor.
Psi Snowball (Zealot): 15 HP, 15 Shields, 5 Armor, 10+2 (2x) Attack, 1 Range, 6 Vision, Light; 2x Attack
Adv. Snow Melter (Hellion): 21 HP, 10-2 Attack, 3 Range, Normal; Hoover Mech; Uses Terran infantry upgrades
Wandering Snowball (Reaper): 1 HP, 10 Shields, .5 (2x) Attack, 1 Armor, 2 Shield Armor, 6 Range, 7 Vision, Light Bio Psionic; Upgrade: Attacks slow enemy movement speed.
All Seeing Snowball (Scientist): 3 HP, +0.05 Armor Per kill, 3 Vision, Light Bio; Detector
Acid (Banneling):5 HP, 3+1 Attack +3 to light/bio, 3 Armor, 0 Range, 4 Vision, Light Bio
Stealth Snowball (Roach): 15 HP, 2+3 Attack, 0 Range, 3 Vision, Bio; Unburrowing grants a slightly faster life regen rate; Burrow move; 4 vision when burrowed; Ability: Undectable: roach is undetectable and un-radarable for 4 seconds.
Vanishing Snowball (Stalker): 2 HP, 15 Shields, 3+2 Attack, 2 Armor, 6 Range, 6 Vision, Armored Psionic; Blink
Snow Flake (Obs): 1 HP, 1 Shields, 3.5 Vision, Light Psionic Flying; No detection; Permanent cloak


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Hero (Units)

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To Do List



Progress Log:
8/30 - Creating dialog menu; will consist of 1) Upgrades 2) Attack/Armor Upgrades and 3) Heroes and Uber Heroes
8/26 - Beginning to redo units (I messed up); Basic units + abilities should be completed in 2 days. (completed)
8/25 - Completed Map Lighting, Shadows, and Day/Night Cycle (day and night only affect where the shadows are)
8/24 - Resized map and created more terrain; Terrain is about 40% done (this includes fancy stuff)
This post was edited 23 times, last edit by fat_flying_pigs: Oct 5 2010, 6:38 pm.

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Post #2     payne Aug 14 2010, 12:37 pm

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I thought people would keep all of their projects secret to be able to submit them for the Blizzard Contest.
I personally recommend it. ^^
What is there to lose? You get a free chance of winning 5000$ !

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Post #3     fat_flying_pigs Aug 14 2010, 8:15 pm

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I thought people would keep all of their projects secret to be able to submit them for the Blizzard Contest.
I personally recommend it. ^^
What is there to lose? You get a free chance of winning 5000$ !
Well 1) There was a huge SW community; I hope to revive it; this topic is one way of informing people that a map is in creation. and 2) Unlike my godly sc1 mapping skills, I have no idea how to map in SC2. and 3) If you follow all my help topics and tutorials, you'll easily figure out I'm making this map.

Anyways, what'd ya think of the terrain in the screenshot?

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Post #4     payne Aug 15 2010, 3:47 am

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Anyways, what'd ya think of the terrain in the screenshot?
It -seriously- looks epic. I'll for sure be waiting for this!
And do your best so its eligible to Blizzard Contest, really.

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Post #5     UnholyUrine Aug 15 2010, 9:21 pm

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You'd think by now there'd be a snowball wars where you ACTUALLY throw snowballs.. rather than have some random units getting in the way :(

I am dissapoint. Sorry. not ur fault

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Post #6     fat_flying_pigs Aug 15 2010, 10:11 pm

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I thought people would keep all of their projects secret to be able to submit them for the Blizzard Contest.
I personally recommend it. ^^
What is there to lose? You get a free chance of winning 5000$ !
Quote from Contest Site
By submitting this map I am granting licensing rights to Blizzard Entertainment, and will not display, post, or share it until after the contest closes on September 11, 2010.*
Is creating a topic on this site considered "displaying the map"? Also, how are we supposed to test the map (uses multiple players) if we can't "share" it w/ others? Also, is there a way to test a map with multiple players w/o publishing and w/o blizzard knowing you shared it?

I'm doing this map for the joy of mapping (and snowball wars); I'll do the contest if I finish by the deadline.

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Post #7     payne Aug 15 2010, 11:07 pm

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You'd think by now there'd be a snowball wars where you ACTUALLY throw snowballs.. rather than have some random units getting in the way :(

I am dissapoint. Sorry. not ur fault
Energy ball launcher
This could be of interest. :O

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Post #8     fat_flying_pigs Aug 16 2010, 5:21 am

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This map utilizes trees and coverage to hide units. However, the "terrain quality" option changes the amount of trees/graphics shown. This gives a player using low quality a huge advantage over a player using ultra quality. Low almost none/no bushes, trees, grass. Medium gives some, and Ultra changes some of the smaller bushes in medium to trees, etc.

How would I make the plant cover equal for all all quality settings, and if possible, how would I reduce the lag if would cause on lower end systems.

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Post #9     payne Aug 16 2010, 5:59 am

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1) Consider people playing on Low don't deserve the game.
2) Adjust the map's terrain consequence of Medium or High setting. Set your mind up and stick with it.

Probably stupid recommendations... I wouldn't have cared about this situation, if it was me.

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Post #10     fat_flying_pigs Aug 16 2010, 6:11 am

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1) Consider people playing on Low don't deserve the game.
2) Adjust the map's terrain consequence of Medium or High setting. Set your mind up and stick with it.

Probably stupid recommendations... I wouldn't have cared about this situation, if it was me.
Wait, you can do that? Block out people playing on low? How do I do this? (Cuz I really don't give a shit about people who play on low as well)

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Post #11     payne Aug 16 2010, 6:34 am

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1) Consider people playing on Low don't deserve the game.
2) Adjust the map's terrain consequence of Medium or High setting. Set your mind up and stick with it.

Probably stupid recommendations... I wouldn't have cared about this situation, if it was me.
Wait, you can do that? Block out people playing on low? How do I do this? (Cuz I really don't give a shit about people who play on low as well)
I don't think you can. I was saying I did not care about the fact they'd have an easier play. :P

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Post #12     fat_flying_pigs Aug 16 2010, 6:35 pm

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Two New Images. 2 of 3 abandoned facilities. (Honest) feedback would be nice. Any way I could improve either of them (terrain or doodads)?
The top picture is 99% finished, and the bottom is 90% finished.

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Post #13     payne Aug 16 2010, 10:02 pm

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What are they used for?
They both look not-good, imo.
Probably because you tend to repeat a lot of times the same doodads. :O

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Post #14     fat_flying_pigs Aug 16 2010, 11:11 pm

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What are they used for?
They both look not-good, imo.
Probably because you tend to repeat a lot of times the same doodads. :O
Thanks for the honest opinion.
They are just parts of the battlefield, throw in some variation. Anything else I could do other than remove some of the doodads?
I'm trying to use other things to obstruct view since trees don't work on the low graphics. They also help block from melee unit rushes.

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Post #15     payne Aug 17 2010, 2:48 am

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Put some Deadman's doodads, they look good when well placed. You can set some Barrels and those Boxes that looks like the boxes in Halo.
Once that's done, you can just restrict areas with Pathing if some doodads do not obstruct the movement.

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Post #16     payne Aug 19 2010, 12:30 am

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Any updates on your terrain?
And I'm glad to see someone actually uses Terrazine. :P

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Post #17     SnowBaller Aug 19 2010, 2:45 am

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HELL YES! lol ive been looking for a snowball wars map for sc2 like daily now, im so stoked to know someones working on it lol uve got my complete suport =D

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Post #18     fat_flying_pigs Aug 19 2010, 5:53 am

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HELL YES! lol ive been looking for a snowball wars map for sc2 like daily now, im so stoked to know someones working on it lol uve got my complete suport =D
Yay! A fellow snowballer! Also, welcome to SEN. If you give me your sc2 username and code, perhapse you could help me test sometime in the near future.

and at anyone else (admins), why does he have -149 minerals?
This post was edited 1 time, last edit by fat_flying_pigs: Aug 19 2010, 6:16 am.

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Post #19     DevliN Aug 19 2010, 10:28 am

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Maybe Devourer put in something similar to the old mineral system when he added the new system. When members joined SEN, they'd start off with -200 minerals so they'd really have to work to get items. Given how small the minerals per post ratio is, that safeguard seems unnecessary. But that's a topic for another thread. :P

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Post #20     RedESTimates Aug 22 2010, 10:03 pm

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I have been waiting for a Snowball Wars map ever since beta. I was quite the avid Redemption map user, featured in a couple clans with some friends.

Bumrushed the (4)Iceman, gave him the medic, won the game. ;D

I'm certainly down to help test whenever/whatever you need to make Snowball Wars strong once again.

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