Honestly, I just want to know what you guys think on the topic of ghosts.

Are they real, or just made-up?

What about the many "ghostly" occurrences through the years? Are they just natural phenomenons?

Share your ghostly experiences, if any.

--

Once, I was spending the night over at my cousin's house. We slept in the basement, but when it came time to sleep, I couldn't. So here I am, trying to get to sleep in this horrible heat that there is, when..

..it drops around 20 degrees in one second, I swear. One second I'm over-heated, the next it's almost comfortable, but I have chills down my back. I think I hear something, but that's it. Took me a hell of a long time to fall asleep that night, I couldn't get the temperature thing out of my head - was it just me, or did it really happen?

--

My cousin ( Yes, the same cousin that owned the house in the above story. ) showed me a picture that she hadn't realized she took on her disposable camera - it seemed to be just a normal picture of her room, albeit upside down and crooked. Except.. there was a little white figure in the top right corner. You know what pixies look like? ( Think Tinkerbell. ) It looked like that, except with angel-like wings, and it was glowing with this white aura. It was clear, but very small. The face almost looked like it was smiling. >_>

--

1st Grade - taking yearbook photos in the gym. Right below the stage in the gym, there is the Janitor's room. There was a pipe sticking out of the ground a little bit - if you looked through it, you could see down into the room, and it was usually pitch black, since it was only used for storing supplies.

I looked down the pipe just for fun, and it was all black.. for a second. I saw this white-glowing this go by, but I could only see it for a fraction of a second. I yelled, and nobody believed me. However, my friend and I started spreading the story that there were ghosts - and everywhere we looked, there seemed to be signs. Names cut into wood that could stand for ghostly terms, etc. However, we were first graders, so we were making a big deal out of lover's initials in trees and other things. The white thing was real, though. ;(

--

In 2nd grade, the door to the Janitor's room was open. In Phys. Ed, we kicked a kickball down there during class, by accident, of course. Our teacher ran down there to look for it - remember, it isn't very large, - but it was nowhere to be found. The ball was never found.

--

All of those stories are true. If you don't believe in ghosts, explain them. I'm serious, please explain them, I'm making myself nervous remembering all of them. >_>

I definately believe that ghosts exist, though I don't know if they're just entities of energy, sentient or not, or even spirits.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n9ymkdvRZU0

Lotsa good stuff on that show. Another one had a lighthouse w/ a figure etc. Couldn't find a video.

Drastic temperature variations are usually only in the mind. From what you stated this could just be a sort of "chills" the whole body feels cooler, however in reality the air temperature is the same. This often happens to me, but of course every time this happens usually doesnt mean that a ghost is sucking up all the heat energy

Ask her to see if she cant find it and post it on the net, i would much love to see the pixie

Balls always did have mysterious ways of disappearing, however I doubt a ghost would do such a thing.

Not trying to disprove any of your statements here, just giving you alternative answers.

And TAPS is awesome, they find ALOT of creepy stuff.


As for me I often hear voices, usually when I am drifting in and out of consciousness while sleeping. It may be schizophrenia or my brain awakening from a dream. However I have heard some voices when I am fully conscious however all voices I hear are incomprehensible.

I do believe in ghosts, however I also believe that a big majority of the claims can be explained or are just mind tricks. (Yes, the jedi are screwing with us)

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 10 2007, 8:07 am by Sie_Sayoka.

Ghosts are real, my dad's girlfriend is in a paranormal ghost hunter type group. They have captured and seen some freaky stuff. They get things like EVPs (electronic voice phenomena) all the time. That's when you ask questions in a place that is supposedly haunted and you record it on a voice recorder and when you listen back to them you can hear responses to your questions, it's trippy shit man. I've been on a few ghost investigations with her, I've never had anything happen but one time this girl's hair got pulled and it literally lifted up on it's own, it was the wierdest thing I've ever seen. If you don't think ghosts are real (like I did) I suggest getting into a paranormal group if it interests you, because you will find some strange unexplainable things.

If ghosts are real then I'm the founder of the ghostbusters. But yeah I don't believe in any ghosts or paranormal things. Most of those things you see on t.v or just very heavily edited exaggerated videos that want to make people believe in almost anything. (except the bible). I mean if ghosts are real then how come there only in specific places? Why can't they be everywhere cause there suppose to represent dead spirits and let me see. People who died since the beginning of time. Should be over 50 billion and with that amount of ghosts everyone should be scared to death. And how can people "actually" see them when their invisible. I don't see how these fancy gadgets make them special. Plus the sounds.

@Sie - Yes, I know many of these things could be my mind messing with me, but some of them were so real..
I could ask my cousin, but it was like 3 years ago, so I doubt she still has it. She probably threw it away.

@Tristan - I couldn't do that, it'd scare the shit out of me. The ones on TV are, obviously, seriously over exaggerated videos that aren't even always real.

@Jordan - I dislike many of the ways they try to prove that they're real. Considering the machines are so hi-tech, they could be picking up any noise, and it could just sound like voices.

If you go on ghost investigations with cool people (there are a lot of losers out there who take it WAY too seriously) they are quite fun, people crack jokes and what not. It's not all scary like you would think. The theory of ghosts is that they usually only appear in areas where they was a high death count. There is not explination but this one place we go to used to be a mental hospital and lots of people died there. The stuff that happens there is legit, it's over exagerated like on tv, but some people have been touched and lots of wierd things with electronics has happened (batteries draining out of cameras instanly, images on cell phones appearing upside down phones ringing etc). Another thing about ghost activity is smells. Sometimes out of no where it will smell like a distinct smell, such as perfume, cookies, garlic or what ever and then go away completly after a few seconds.

@ Jamal if you are experiencing temperature drops those are called Cold Spots. The theory is that if you feel a cold spot that is a ghost/spirit/energy or w/e you want to call it. They dwell off energy and heat is a form of energy. This is also why they will drain batteries and effect electronics sometimes.

@ Jordan, the theory of ghosts is that they are energy and the spirit of people, I know it sounds like BS but I have experienced a lot of paranormal stuff first hand. Lots of people have also seen appiritions (spelled horribly?) which are usually appear as a dark figure. When ever I have been on an investigation they people are extreamly skeptical about any "paranormal" activity. You spend a lot of time trying to debunk and activity. But sometimes you can't debunk the evidence and that is what gets labeled as paranormal activity.

You I actually did. I've never experienced a genuine paranormal event, and I've always argued with people that say they believe in such things. Ofcourse, they would always end with "Well have you ever tried looking for ghosts?", "You can't talk when you haven't experienced things like we have", or "Go with a paranormal group to a haunted place." So I finally did. I found a meetup group in my local area, and publicly announced myself as a skeptic, and would like to join them on their next outing. Ofcourse on their message board they say they welcome skeptics to tag along, and that they want their work to be objectively criticized. At first you get to know the and their experiences on the message board, which are all TOTALLY over the top. So long story short, the group was VERY unorganized and nothing we ever caught unless the member was by themsleves. I experienced nadda.

Yeah I know what you mean man. A lot of those paranormal dudes are full of shit. I can understand if you don't believe if you haven't experienced anything first hand. I didn't believe either until I experienced things first hand. That sucks you had to work with a crappy group. The group I've been with is very professional and they don't BS around like a lot of groups do. There are so many douches out there that are like "OMG I heard a sound it must be a ghost!"

No such thing as a ghost as you guys are talking about. However, those ghosts are really just what the modern world calls "demons." They are just devil spirits as I call them. Which means they are basically fallen angels, because remember in the bible it says that 1/3 of the angels of heaven followed lucifer. They're just messing with people, trying to get inside their heads. And you can't actually capture a "ghost", it is spirit, and no material thing has any effect on it.

Yeah I've heard that too, that "ghosts" are actually demons, which would explain why over half the time the EVPs say evil shit like "I'm going to kill you". I just say ghost for lack of a better word and actually knowing what it really is.

First of all please do some research before you post, you wouldnt want to embarrass yourself.
Ghosts usually stay at the place where they have died, or where they were most emotionally attached to when alive. However there are some instances where ghosts actually follow people who have wronged them in life or death.
Not everyone becomes a ghost, the theory is that they become a ghost after, an untimely death, an extremely sad death, an angry death, and there are some other reasons including vortexs and stuff. Often ghosts are victims of murder and suicide, but they may also fall prey to illness.
The theory behind the ghosts appearances usually depends on how much energy they have. If they do not have energy they are usually invisible, incapable of moving things within reality. However if the ghost has a power source nearby it can gain more energy therefore creating an apparition. This can explain while electrical equiptment get drained more rapidly in haunted locations.

That is a possibility, however why demons would go through the trouble of taking the form of actual people who lived is beyond me. Another answer could just be purgatory.

What? That sounds highly illogical.
I believe I had and this is almost the same response I had used before.
Why would a ghost stay in a certain location? I mean would a ghost just stay in a basement for all of eternity because it feels its best to stay there? And how do people know or find out the ghost is going to choose to follow someone because they did something wrong to them. If that's true then my Proton pack isn't working.

Ya, a theory. That doesn't mean its true. And once again why would it have to be an untimely death or sad one. Can't it be some super happy person who does an overdose of ecstacy. Also my 3 mice died of either sickness,untimely death and sadness and I don't see them roaming around in my room.

Energy? Does that mean my kettle is a ghost?
Ah the power outlet. I knew it was evil.
So ghosts that have died a thousand years no how to absorb electrical energy? This is like final fantasy all over again.

Energy is Energy is Energy.

Is Energy.

I don't believe in ghosts. I don't understand how people believe in ghosts. Just so.. illogical and random. Why don't dead things excite the particles around them, instead of dulling them (heat). Makes no sense.

Dead people are dead. Thats all there is to it. They don't go to heaven, hell, or purgatory. And they don't turn into ghosts. Their soul life goes back to God. End of story. It stays that way until judgment day, when the people will be judged.
The devil just likes to screw with people getting them to believe all that junk. They are just fallen angels and they can take the form of material things or even possess them. Material items won't work on them, that includes crosses, holy water, and anything else us humans deemed as "holy." Angels don't have big white wings, they are spirits, they can take the form of humans. And I bet there are a few of them in the world right now.

Actually the bible says unclean spirits can't take the form of materials/humans because they lost that power. (Same thing with posessing its not as heavy as before). And your right about those that are dead. They don't go anywhere except the ground (and their spirit/mind returns back to god)where they wait to be resurrected.

Got me there, I've never really studied them all that hard. So I was ignorant.

From the last topic on ghosts (this one was in Null):
My class went to Washington DC over spring break (anyone remember the topic I posted about it on v4?), and for part of the trip we were in colonial Williamsburg, West Virginia. Our guide told us about a slave woman named Eve (I think it was Eve, I don't quite remember the whole story) who lived and worked in the Peyton Randolph house, which we were standing outside of. Here's a summary of the parts of the story I think I remember: 17th century. Eve doesn't like house, Eve escapes, Eve is caught and brought back, Eve works some more then escapes again, caught, brought back, sold to someone else and seperated from her family. Then the guide told us about how Marquis de Lafayette stayed in the house and was shaken awake every time he fell asleep, which he wrote about in his diary/journal thing. Then, she told us that a number of people (I think it was 26, can't be sure though) had reported being pushed down the stairs and a smaller number (9, was it?) had been killed from breaking their necks after said 'pushing.' So as we were standing there staring at the house, my friend took a picture. We stood examining the picture and we noticed what looked like a poorly lit female face in the window that we didn't see before, during, or after the picture taking. I know this sounds stupid, but don't dismiss it yet. We took another, and it wasn't there, so we knew it wasn't lighting (remember, this is at night, no clouds moving in front of the sun to cause the change). We took the picture to the guide, who told us that we had taken a picture of Eve. That was the end of the night's tour. We came back the next night and went back to the Peyton Randolph house and our guide (the guide we had for the entire trip, not the guide who works in Williamsburg) told us about a family that lived in the house long after Eve had. I forget what the story with them was, but there were a few sons, a mother, and a father. The sons always played together (even though one of them was a teenager, silly ye-olde-timey families) and they ran in the house a lot. As I said before, I forget what the story with them was, but somehow they died. I don't know if it was at the same time, or different times, but they did. Anyway, for some reason or another, my class decided to go up to the window and take pictures. But, being a girl, my friend stayed back and had me stay back too. Then, all the girls by the window scream. My friend decides it's a good time to join the group, so we go up with them. I asked what they saw, and everyone says it was feet running up the stairs. I asked around some more and found someone with a picture. It was a little blurry, but I definitely saw two pairs of feet on the stairs. If anything is going to surprise 50 students at a window, it's going to be ghosts running up stairs. I would've laughed if Eve came up to the window again.
So yeah.

Superstitions are the things people make up to rationalize their fear of that which they do not understand (in this case, false positive pattern recognition in wind and shadows). Most popular religions fall into the category of superstition, but with the added twist of gaining power by manipulating others into believing the superstition.

Learn how your senses work, look twice, and investigate. This will cause your 'ghosts' to stop existing.