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[2014-8-09. : 3:58 pm]
Roy -- Yeah, Vista was basically a disaster for the first 6-12 months.
[2014-8-09. : 3:56 pm]
Moose -- I had a friend who had a Vista laptop around the time Vista came out, though. He wasn't a computer guy, so I felt bad for him when shit started going wrong and I had to keep fixing things. So that left a bad taste in my mouth for the OS.
[2014-8-09. : 3:52 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I feel ya Moose.
[2014-8-09. : 3:51 pm]
Moose -- So after 10+ years of Win XP, I'm pretty attached to it. Note my near-total lack of objectivity when defending it. ;)
[2014-8-09. : 3:49 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- 64 bit is much better with RAM.
[2014-8-09. : 3:49 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- That's the same reason I switched... That's why I said among.
[2014-8-09. : 3:48 pm]
Moose -- I only switched away from XP when I built this computer, haha.
[2014-8-09. : 3:48 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I was among the last to switch away from XP. xD
[2014-8-09. : 3:47 pm]
Roy -- I was one of the last to upgrade my laptop from Vista to 7. Some machines just ran better with the former.
[2014-8-09. : 3:47 pm]
Dem0n -- Roy knows the truth.
[2014-8-09. : 3:46 pm]
Roy -- My school laptop had Vista SP2 on it, and everyone started upgrading to 7 because "it's so much better than Vista!" And then they all ran into driver issues and certain functions on the laptop weren't working correctly. It was the same shit as Vista went through, but since 7 had a good reputation, nobody complained about it.
[2014-8-09. : 3:46 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Still though, playing Starcraft without changing settings will always make XP number one in my book.
[2014-8-09. : 3:45 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- No wonder I didn't know about it. My dad's the first to get new OS's.
[2014-8-09. : 3:45 pm]
Moose -- IIRC, 7 was based on Vista, so they made 7 and was like "uh, let's put this shit on Vista so it stops being a pile of poop"
[2014-8-09. : 3:44 pm]
Roy -- Shortly after 7 came out.
[2014-8-09. : 3:44 pm]
Moose -- Vista was a pile of poop when it first came out.
[2014-8-09. : 3:44 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- When did they update Vista with things better than XP?
[2014-8-09. : 3:43 pm]
Roy -- XP was better than Vista. Much better, in fact. But it's no longer better than Vista.
[2014-8-09. : 3:42 pm]
Moose -- You can like 7 or 8 better than XP, but Vista? Stop it. :P
[2014-8-09. : 3:41 pm]
Moose -- Okay, Roy, have you been drinking?
[2014-8-09. : 3:40 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- At least there's color fixes out there.
[2014-8-09. : 3:40 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- My dad had Vista. I hated the thing. It fucked up Starcraft, (Windows 7 did too)
[2014-8-09. : 3:39 pm]
Dem0n -- roy pls.
[2014-8-09. : 3:38 pm]
Roy -- I would very much rather use Vista than XP.
[2014-8-09. : 3:38 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Plus the dropping support reason... :l
[2014-8-09. : 3:38 pm]
Dem0n -- I didn't mind XP, but I do have to say that Windows 7 is definitely the best one yet.
[2014-8-09. : 3:38 pm]
Roy -- But Microsoft always drops support for their older products. Especially once they've been proven to be completely broken.
[2014-8-09. : 3:38 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- XP is better than Vista... That's mainly my reason. Plus, I used it for 8+ years and never had a problem. (Switched to Win7 x64 in 2013)
[2014-8-09. : 3:37 pm]
Moose -- Hey, Win XP is best windows ever. Microsoft had to purposely drop support because they knew people wouldn't switch since Microsoft knew they couldn't do better.
[2014-8-09. : 3:36 pm]
Dem0n -- Those are triflin' words with Moose here, Roy.
[2014-8-09. : 3:36 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Luckily my dad works with computers and I can get any OS disc he has. If people's computers are scrapped, then I get a CD-Key for it too. xD
[2014-8-09. : 3:36 pm]
Moose -- Dual boot Lubuntu! Ultra speed! :wob:
[2014-8-09. : 3:36 pm]
Roy -- Windows XP is so bad; I don't understand why people like it.
[2014-8-09. : 3:36 pm]
Dem0n -- I mean, I'm not actually going to get some out-dated laptop. I'll just buy a new one off of Newegg for $300.
[2014-8-09. : 3:35 pm]
Dem0n -- Oh I get Mathematica for free, too? And Adobe CS6 Master Suite? :wtfawesome:
[2014-8-09. : 3:35 pm]
Moose -- Oh, the Linux installer uses a GUI these days
[2014-8-09. : 3:35 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I've tried Windows 8 for over a year. (My friend has it on his laptop) It just doesn't have the same feel I come to expect from Windows... XP and 7 are the ones I love.
[2014-8-09. : 3:35 pm]
Moose -- Yeah, I just mentioned Lubuntu because it's super lightweight and aimed at older hardware and laptops
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Roy -- Or put Mint with the 7 skin on there.
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Dem0n -- I once tried installing Linux onto a computer. I had no clue what I was doing.
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Dem0n -- Never have to buy an OS again :awesome:
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Moose -- Dem0n, if you get an el cheapo craptop and you don't need microsoft programs specifically (ones you can't run under WINE), throw Lubuntu on there.
[2014-8-09. : 3:33 pm]
Dem0n -- My school offers all version of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 for free lel.
[2014-8-09. : 3:33 pm]
Roy -- Most of the hate for 8/8.1 is from people that have either not used it or used it for less than, say, a week.
[2014-8-09. : 3:32 pm]
Roy -- Classic Shell is basically all you need to turn it into 7. Although you sometimes run into metro apps, which is annoying when you have a dual-monitor setup.
[2014-8-09. : 3:32 pm]
Dem0n -- If I get an el cheapo craptop, I am throwing W7 on there immediately. Fuck W8.
[2014-8-09. : 3:31 pm]
Moose -- Honestly, I hear Win 8.1 isn't that bad and that there's themes you can install to just make it very 7-ish anyway. So it looks mostly like 7, with all the benefits of 8, it's pretty good
[2014-8-09. : 3:31 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Oh well... At least my SSD boots up in 5 seconds anyways.
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
Roy -- I have 8.1 on my desktop. It's pretty cool.
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
Moose -- http://www.tomsguide.com/us/win8-speed-performance,review-1760.html It's from 2012, but it has a lot of Win7 comparisons
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Also... Damn. I wonder who still has/uses a '95 or older computer. xD
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
Roy -- Windows 7 doesn't do any of that.
[2014-8-09. : 3:29 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- How about Windows 7? I don't want to ever use 8. I'll just wait for 9 to come out.
[2014-8-09. : 3:28 pm]
Moose -- "Partly that’s because instead of shutting down services and drivers when you turn off your PC, Windows 8 saves a copy of the current state of services and devices to disk; like hibernating your PC but without saving the details of applications and open files. Reading that copy and reinitializing the drivers is faster than loading it all from scratch, and if you have a processor with more than one core Windows uses all of them to boot with, not just one."
[2014-8-09. : 3:28 pm]
Roy -- The oldest I could probably find would be from the early 2000's.
[2014-8-09. : 3:25 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- What about the '95 computer... Where would I get one of them? Because I don't know anyone who has a computer of that age.
[2014-8-09. : 3:25 pm]
Moose -- I have to admit I've wondered what would happen if I were able to put Windows 95 on here and have the hardware be compatible.
[2014-8-09. : 3:24 pm]
Roy -- And hope the firmware on the SSD doesn't mind.
[2014-8-09. : 3:23 pm]
Roy -- Just get a SATA to IDE adapter.
[2014-8-09. : 3:23 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I now want to get one of them and find a way to get an SSD to connect to IDE ports. See how fast a '95 computer can run with that thing.
[2014-8-09. : 3:22 pm]
Roy -- Were benchmarks a big thing back then?
[2014-8-09. : 3:22 pm]
Roy -- I wonder if they offloaded a lot of the work for the OS to improve "boot-to-desktop" benchmarks.
[2014-8-09. : 3:20 pm]
Moose -- Haha, yes. And it might give you the half hourglass half pointer cursor but you knew it was only pretending you would be able to do something.
[2014-8-09. : 3:19 pm]
Roy -- The worst part was when you'd hit the desktop, but you'd know you couldn't do anything for another 2 minutes or so because the computer was cranking on something in the background.
[2014-8-09. : 3:19 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- But I do know for a fact the computer was slow. Lagged a lot.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I might be exaggerating... I don't remember a whole lot of things 10+ years ago. It could've been the real thing, or it could've been exaggerated... Truth is, I don't really know for sure.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
Roy -- If it were bad hardware, the machine wouldn't boot at all.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
Roy -- Mine probably took a solid four minutes to boot, which was just terrible.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
Moose -- Exactly, Roy. Sounds like bad hardware or user error.
[2014-8-09. : 3:17 pm]
Roy -- I don't believe there was hardware in existence that couldn't boot Windows 95 or earlier in less than fifteen minutes, excluding hardware that wasn't compatible with the OS. You seem to be exaggerating. Unless your computer was heavily infected with malware and the startup folder was filled with virus programs initializing in the background, it probably only took like 5-8 minutes and it just seemed like forever because computers nowadays boot up in under a minute.



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