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[2019-10-10. : 3:21 am]  KrayZee -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: it's super obvious trump won't get impeached. In fact he's going to get reelected Gee, I wonder how Andrew Johnson and RIchard Nixon got reelected.  [2019-10-09. : 11:04 pm] CaptainWill -- Yeah he probably will. I was reading American Psycho recently, and the main character is obsessed with Donald Trump.[2019-10-09. : 11:01 pm] NudeRaider -- it's super obvious trump won't get impeached. In fact he's going to get reelected[2019-10-09. : 5:09 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: It better have been a CRT TV and not one of them newfangled flatscreen ones 16:9 and black glossy frame. 95% TFT.[2019-10-09. : 4:41 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- It better have been a CRT TV and not one of them newfangled flatscreen ones [2019-10-09. : 3:41 pm] NudeRaider -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: here have a pirated version: https://youtu.be/Af0wXeN6_FY filmed from a TV  love it. Oh_Man, do you now see the consequences of your inconsiderate actions?[2019-10-09. : 2:47 pm] NudeRaider -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: https://southpark.cc.com/clips/103759/not-a-big-deal only viewable in US[2019-10-09. : 2:47 pm] NudeRaider -- MTiger156MTiger156 shouted: The "anti-government" side of me would love to see that happen, but my reasonable side says no what's the worst that could happen? [2019-10-09. : 2:45 pm] NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: And how are map authors not also unknown as a youtube channel alias? dunno? I'm pretty sure they are[2019-10-09. : 1:39 pm] MTiger156 -- The "anti-government" side of me would love to see that happen, but my reasonable side says no [2019-10-09. : 9:32 am]  Oh_Man -- Let's make a Hong Kong Defence map where you have to fight off waves of Chinese military and see if Blizz responds. [2019-10-09. : 5:27 am] Oh_Man -- And how are map authors not also unknown as a youtube channel alias?[2019-10-09. : 4:58 am] NudeRaider -- apparently it's also not unheard of to be sued directly for copyright infringement in a youtube video you uploaded: https://torrentfreak.com/youtuber-sued-stanley-kubrick-movies-analysis-160606/[2019-10-09. : 4:51 am] NudeRaider -- The thing is, when uploading to youtube and someone sees their content in one of your videos they usually have no means of suing you directly because your identity is unknown--at least to them. So they do a copyright claim instead towards youtube. Now it's not exactly in youtube's best interest to refuse responsibility and give them your identity, so they have implemented filters and a strike system. I'm not so sure Blizzard would react the same way if they found a person is using their maps to circumvent copyright.[2019-10-09. : 12:34 am] Oh_Man -- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacom_International_Inc._v._YouTube,_Inc.[2019-10-09. : 12:34 am] Oh_Man -- In response to a lawsuit from Viacom, video sharing service YouTube developed a copyright enforcement tool referred to as Content ID which automatically scans uploaded content against a database of copyrighted material ingested by third-parties.[2019-10-09. : 12:31 am] Oh_Man -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Oh_Man I'm hung up on this: "blizz owns all our maps, that's why i fill them all with copyrighted sound effects " What Blizzard owns or not owns is not a factor. why do u think youtube had to make the algorithm and copyright strike system? Because they were getting in trouble for users uploading copyrighted material on their platform. Ditto for Blizz and copyright maps/sounds in maps[2019-10-08. : 6:06 pm] Vrael -- I like how the donald trump post is in lite discussion, the after-effects of my SD moderation remain to this day[2019-10-08. : 2:46 pm] NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: MTiger156 You realise people making those LOTR maps is copyright infringement. Panzer making Resident Evil Raccoon City is copyright infringement. Don't let Nude's fearmongering scare you. It's not fearmongering to correctly state that the practice is illegal. I literally said "can include copyright protected material worry-free"[2019-10-08. : 2:40 pm] NudeRaider -- I literally already said it's not being prosecuted: " that's why it's not enforced. " Just the reason you gave for it was wrong. not the fact.[2019-10-08. : 2:38 pm] NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: NudeRaider you getting too hung up on what is legal or illegal, which is irrelevant. it's what is prosecuted and what isn't prosecuted. and illegal copyright material in SCBW maps is not prosecuted XD I'm hung up on this: "blizz owns all our maps, that's why i fill them all with copyrighted sound effects " What Blizzard owns or not owns is not a factor.[2019-10-08. : 6:59 am] martosss -- I mentioned the streaming because I've seen twitch videos being muted... and it's annoying... the sad part is that i don't care about the music, I care what the streamer is saying, but I can't hear it, since it's muted. It doesn't matter much, though, as the video is still there.[2019-10-08. : 5:18 am] Oh_Man -- TLDR they used to do takedowns constantly on anyone actually showing gameplay of their games... created the "Nintendo Creators Program" as a response to the backlash, then abolished that program in 2018 and just let the gamers stream their games... like every other games company was already doing[2019-10-08. : 5:17 am] Oh_Man -- https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14034/~/nintendo-creators-program---overview#targetText=The%20Nintendo%20Creators%20Program%20was,intellectual%20property%2C%20including%20gameplay%20videos.[2019-10-08. : 5:14 am] Oh_Man -- https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/08/nintendo-is-cracking-down-on-popular-youtube-music-channels/[2019-10-08. : 5:14 am] Oh_Man -- Probably bcause every single Lets Play video would be getting mass copyright infringements if that was the case. I believe Nintendo copped a LOT of flack from the community back in the day regarding this.[2019-10-08. : 5:12 am] Oh_Man -- martosssmartosss shouted: One other concern about copyright protected music might be streamers, whose videos might be muted if they play a map containing those sounds I noticed this in earlier versions of my map, I uploaded a video of my map, and the Youtube algorithm detected one of the songs and flagged it for copyright (actually I think it just got auto-credited in the description box). Nevertheless, I decided to swap it for a song from SC2 instead. I've found that video game music is 99% of the time is not detected by Youtube's algorithm.[2019-10-08. : 5:04 am] Oh_Man -- That link is just to show you the situation many actual, made-for-profit games find themselves in regarding licencing issues "licence expiration licence expiration licence expiration" seems to be a common one[2019-10-08. : 5:02 am] Oh_Man -- They're using intellectual properties without getting the appropriate licence. https://store.steampowered.com/curator/31857481-Games-at-risk-of-removal/[2019-10-08. : 5:01 am] Oh_Man -- MTiger156MTiger156 shouted: So we should keep copyright abuse to a minimum to keep it that way You realise people making those LOTR maps is copyright infringement. Panzer making Resident Evil Raccoon City is copyright infringement. Don't let Nude's fearmongering scare you. [2019-10-08. : 4:58 am] Oh_Man -- MTiger156MTiger156 shouted: The biggest factor is that most of the playerbase probably makes minimum wage and would not be profitable to lawsuit against. did you just assume my socioeconomic status??![2019-10-08. : 4:56 am] Oh_Man -- so the issue of whether it is legal or illegal in country X or Y means complete f-all hahaha[2019-10-08. : 4:56 am] Oh_Man -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: I know it's not legal here. you getting too hung up on what is legal or illegal, which is irrelevant. it's what is prosecuted and what isn't prosecuted. and illegal copyright material in SCBW maps is not prosecuted XD[2019-10-08. : 4:45 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- especially if their music is already streamable for free on like bandcamp or soundcloud or w/e[2019-10-08. : 4:44 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- like if you play their music at worst that's just giving them exposure[2019-10-08. : 4:44 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also it probably depends on the artist/owner of the music[2019-10-08. : 4:40 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- afaik the worst that happens is twitch or whatever mutes it like martosssmartosss shouted: One other concern about copyright protected music might be streamers, whose videos might be muted if they play a map containing those sounds said[2019-10-08. : 4:40 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I saw someone saying once that it's basically just how much you're willing to risk someone complaining or something[2019-10-08. : 4:37 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: I never got how that works with streamers since so many are playing music during their streams. Do they have to get permission to play every song? some of them just don't care[2019-10-08. : 1:17 am] jjf28 -- I know that many streamers are very sensitive to copyrighted music and that people will sometimes use it to troll audio donations or to troll streamers in a nearby virtual area where sound is shared[2019-10-08. : 1:16 am] Dem0n -- I never got how that works with streamers since so many are playing music during their streams. Do they have to get permission to play every song?[2019-10-08. : 1:05 am] martosss -- One other concern about copyright protected music might be streamers, whose videos might be muted if they play a map containing those sounds[2019-10-07. : 8:50 pm] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: I imagine they revised the language of BW to match that as I understand it there's only one EULA for all Blizzard games (the one I linked to)[2019-10-07. : 8:49 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Possibly, but since they don't provide an editor to create things with its moot[2019-10-07. : 8:24 pm] Dem0n -- wasn't there something the SC2 EULA where it basically said, "anything you make belongs to us"?[2019-10-07. : 8:15 pm] NudeRaider -- MooseMoose shouted: Has anyone actually even checked the license since SC:R came out? The old one stored as a file isn't there in the SC directory anymore imo Scroll down to "User Created or Uploaded Content." 2 Sections farther down "Game Editors." seems also relevant--however it only talks about editors shipped with the game, so technically this doesn't apply to ScmDraft.[2019-10-07. : 6:52 pm] MTiger156 -- So we should keep copyright abuse to a minimum to keep it that way [2019-10-07. : 6:50 pm] NudeRaider -- so the reason oh_man can include copyright protected material worry-free in his maps is not because he is allowed to do so (and Blizzard would receive the lawsuit) it's because it's not a big problem. Only few people are doing it and probably noone abusing it. that's why it's not enforced. Not because of EULA.[2019-10-07. : 6:47 pm] NudeRaider -- the point is: if this were a loophole people would be using it. And if people would be using it the lawsuits would ensue. |
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