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[2011-2-21. : 9:42 pm]  Echo -- Why is that name so familiar
[2011-2-21. : 9:42 pm]  payne -- o!
[2011-2-21. : 9:42 pm]  Echo -- TotalBiscuit
[2011-2-21. : 9:41 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Where all the houses are separated in the first place.
[2011-2-21. : 9:41 pm]  lil-Inferno -- The only people living in it are all packed into one tiny town.
[2011-2-21. : 9:41 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Dunno, I gotta go to work
[2011-2-21. : 9:41 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Eventually >:o.
[2011-2-21. : 9:40 pm]  Raitaki -- So when are we taking over the place? :3
[2011-2-21. : 9:38 pm]  lil-Inferno -- The mayor of Pitcairn was charged with possession of child pornography.
[2011-2-21. : 9:38 pm]  lil-Inferno -- lolololol
[2011-2-21. : 9:38 pm]  Raitaki -- No ammo tho >_>;
[2011-2-21. : 9:38 pm]  Raitaki -- <--has a semi auto to bring with him :3
[2011-2-21. : 9:37 pm]  Raitaki -- o.o;
[2011-2-21. : 9:37 pm]  Raitaki -- Can I join?
[2011-2-21. : 9:37 pm]  Raitaki -- Lolz?
[2011-2-21. : 9:37 pm]  lil-Inferno -- We can kidnap Mike Warren.
[2011-2-21. : 9:37 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Also, currency is new zealand dollar, which means it's stable.
[2011-2-21. : 9:36 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- He's a marine, we'd need like him and 3 other people to own the place.
[2011-2-21. : 9:36 pm]  lil-Inferno -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn
[2011-2-21. : 9:36 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Well, is loveless in?
[2011-2-21. : 9:36 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Large resources, small amounts of people, too cold for others to bother invading, qeubecois hates anglais and vice versa. Revolution waiting to happen.
[2011-2-21. : 9:36 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Pitcairn is in the Pacific and has a population of like... 40
[2011-2-21. : 9:36 pm]  lil-Inferno -- We'd only need like 5 people to subdue everyone there.
[2011-2-21. : 9:36 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- What about canada?
[2011-2-21. : 9:35 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- I don't even know where that is
[2011-2-21. : 9:35 pm]  lil-Inferno -- We can start with some shitty place as our base of operations. Pitcairn Island.
[2011-2-21. : 9:35 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- KNEEL BEFORE THE MIGHT THAT IS CORBONIA
[2011-2-21. : 9:35 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- CORBONIA SHALL RULE
[2011-2-21. : 9:35 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Sounds like a plan.
[2011-2-21. : 9:35 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Jack, conquer the world with me.
[2011-2-21. : 9:35 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Utilizing the workforce of 150-300 people, I start building weapons of mass destruction, and smashface anyone who tries to stop me. Then I rule the world.
[2011-2-21. : 9:34 pm]  Raitaki -- Wut is this?
[2011-2-21. : 9:34 pm]  Raitaki -- o.o;
[2011-2-21. : 9:33 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- If other people come to stop me, I smash they face, or send people to make a second tyranny in another local area. Then I have 100 people ruling over 300 people.
[2011-2-21. : 9:33 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Then I can easily subdue those other 150 people.
[2011-2-21. : 9:33 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- See, let's say 50 people agree to work with me, and they're all big meaty guys and we grab some weppinz.
[2011-2-21. : 9:32 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- But in this local area, I only have to subdue less than 200 people, then I've got myself a tyranny.
[2011-2-21. : 9:32 pm]  payne -- Jack, that's basically capitalism's idea. And communism's idea is about Proletaria Dictatorship: you'd just be exposing yourself to a revolt.
[2011-2-21. : 9:31 pm]  Raitaki -- Yet another guy rammed me with probes x3
[2011-2-21. : 9:29 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- We don't kill all the others, we make them work for us.
[2011-2-21. : 9:29 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Then your gang rules the place and conquers other local places.
[2011-2-21. : 9:29 pm]  payne -- CAFG, what are you disliking about my idea?
[2011-2-21. : 9:29 pm]  Raitaki -- o.o;
[2011-2-21. : 9:29 pm]  Raitaki -- What's this subject chu guise are talking bout?
[2011-2-21. : 9:28 pm]  Raitaki -- Mew.
[2011-2-21. : 9:28 pm]  payne -- Okay Jack, then your gang kills all the others. What then?
[2011-2-21. : 9:28 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Someone make a game about this conversation where you can steal people's food and get stronger than them then SMASH FACE with minions.
[2011-2-21. : 9:27 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- What if I got a bunch of other people who want to steal too much as well? Then I have what is colloquially known as a "gang". No one in the local system would mess with my gang.
[2011-2-21. : 9:27 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Kill the masses!
[2011-2-21. : 9:26 pm]  payne -- I'm no proposing one huge ass society. My whole system is local.
[2011-2-21. : 9:26 pm]  payne -- Jack, in my society, there ain't any property. You take as much as you can. And if you get too much to the like of others, well, they'll be mad at you and pwn yo ass.
[2011-2-21. : 9:26 pm]  MC˛Voyager7456 -- Payne the problem with your system is I don't want to live in the Stone Age.
[2011-2-21. : 9:26 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- i dont agree with your small community idea payne
[2011-2-21. : 9:26 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- They grab food, get more food, get stronger than people with less food, become tyrants, smash face. Minions help them to smash face.
[2011-2-21. : 9:25 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Yes it would benefit the stealers.
[2011-2-21. : 9:25 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Payne, there's 7 billion people in the world, and that number's only getting bigger.
[2011-2-21. : 9:25 pm]  payne -- Stealing at this scale wouldn't make much sense and wouldn't really benefit the stealers...
[2011-2-21. : 9:25 pm]  payne -- Imagine a small community of like 200 people all working to suffice their needs...
[2011-2-21. : 9:25 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Then I'd say if you don't work for me I'll tell the people you stoled this food. Then I'd run a black market giving extra food to people who give me extra stuff that I don't get as a normal communist.
[2011-2-21. : 9:24 pm]  payne -- Wouldn't work in the society I proposed:
[2011-2-21. : 9:24 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- People, being selfish and hungry, would do so.
[2011-2-21. : 9:24 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- So let's say I'm a farmer. I'd say HEY GUISE IF YOU WORK THIS BIT OF LAND WITH ME YOU CAN HAVE SOME OF THE STUFFZ IN IT EVEN THOUGH WE"RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE TO LE PEOPLE
[2011-2-21. : 9:23 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- yeah
[2011-2-21. : 9:23 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- No, no, you don't understand. In anarcho-communism, people still have to make food, no?
[2011-2-21. : 9:23 pm]  Centreri -- Your mom will, though.
[2011-2-21. : 9:23 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- thats a capitalsit invention
[2011-2-21. : 9:23 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- you won't own a business
[2011-2-21. : 9:22 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Others would follow my example and the world would revert to capitalism. Le win.
[2011-2-21. : 9:22 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Then I'd run a capitalist company, making my workers richer than the rest of the people.
[2011-2-21. : 9:22 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- I'd tell people that if they work for me I can get them some benefits on the side.
[2011-2-21. : 9:21 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Payne, I'd grab as much stuff as I could find, steal it, whatever.
[2011-2-21. : 9:21 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- That's right payne I forgot, we wouldn't need more than 1 benevolent communist ruler, because what said ruler is suppose dto do is dismantle most of it once it gets going
[2011-2-21. : 9:21 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- I believe the exception to that rule is that nobody's ever going to be the perfect marxist AND get in charge of people.
[2011-2-21. : 9:21 pm]  payne -- Anarcho-communism abolishes (nearly) any form of classes
[2011-2-21. : 9:20 pm]  payne -- Jack, how would you?
[2011-2-21. : 9:20 pm]  Bar Refaeli -- imo a dictatorship would be the best type of government as long as you had a good dictator
[2011-2-21. : 9:20 pm]  Roy -- Rule: There is an exception to every rule.
[2011-2-21. : 9:20 pm]  payne -- http://www.staredit.net/269628/ w00t, I described very well my idea society. :3
[2011-2-21. : 9:20 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- I believe in an exception to every rule
[2011-2-21. : 9:19 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- I'm holding out for someone with some strange immunity to it
[2011-2-21. : 9:19 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- its corrupted everyone so far
[2011-2-21. : 9:19 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Payne, I bet I could.
[2011-2-21. : 9:19 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- "someone at the helm" absolute power corrupts.
[2011-2-21. : 9:19 pm]  payne -- you can't take advantage of communism once it has reached it's last phase: anarcho-communism.
[2011-2-21. : 9:18 pm]  Roy -- Best Way to Run a Country?
[2011-2-21. : 9:18 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- CAFG, but even if you get one person who's like this, you won't get all people to be like thisl.
[2011-2-21. : 9:18 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- this*
[2011-2-21. : 9:18 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- hel = helm*
[2011-2-21. : 9:17 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- and stay true to it
[2011-2-21. : 9:17 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- Well if we keep trying communism, then odds are SOME DAY there might be someone at the hel who read the communist manifesto, wept tears at how much they believed it to be true
[2011-2-21. : 9:17 pm]  Tuxlar -- any system could work if you meet its requirements
[2011-2-21. : 9:17 pm]  Tuxlar -- naw
[2011-2-21. : 9:17 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Capitalism may not be perfect, but overall the poor in america are a whole lot richer and better off than the poor of, say, India.
[2011-2-21. : 9:17 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Even if all 7 billion people in the world agreed to become marxists/communists/socialists, the system still wouldn't work.
[2011-2-21. : 9:16 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- (well, till heaven, but you get the idea)
[2011-2-21. : 9:16 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- ALWAYS.
[2011-2-21. : 9:16 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- Problem is there will always be people who lead, people who try to take advantage of the system, people who corrupt a system that looks good on paper, people who lie, cheat, steal, etc.
[2011-2-21. : 9:16 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- the men who said they were communists were all evil and greedy
[2011-2-21. : 9:15 pm]  ClansAreForGays -- Someone just have to be GOOD
[2011-2-21. : 9:15 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- I understand what you mean.
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