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[2012-8-08. : 12:34 am]  Oh_Man -- His morality is utilitarian - I don't see what is faith based about it?
[2012-8-08. : 12:32 am]  jjf28 -- (his axioms are also what he tries to show to be true in the debate)
[2012-8-08. : 12:31 am]  jjf28 -- mm, I listened the whole thing through, what it boils down to is Sam is putting a faith-based system of morals, most ironically :P
[2012-8-08. : 12:30 am]  Oh_Man -- Oho at 1 hour 5 mins of that vid Sam talks about divine command theory.
[2012-8-08. : 12:26 am]  Oh_Man -- http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110507103721AAVazZa
[2012-8-08. : 12:26 am]  Oh_Man -- If we assume that those who never hear the gospel are granted mercy from God, we will run into a terrible problem. If people who never hear the gospel are saved, it is logical that we should make sure no one ever hears the gospel.
[2012-8-08. : 12:26 am]  Oh_Man -- People are responsible to God for what God has already revealed to them.
[2012-8-08. : 12:25 am]  Oh_Man -- Deuteronomy 4:29 “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.”
[2012-8-08. : 12:25 am]  Oh_Man -- yeh like
[2012-8-08. : 12:25 am]  jjf28 -- hmm, can't recall the wording, but it was along the lines of "you will each be judged according to that which you know"
[2012-8-08. : 12:23 am]  Lanthanide -- the bald guy is my manager
[2012-8-08. : 12:22 am]  DevliN -- Neat
[2012-8-08. : 12:22 am]  Lanthanide -- well actually there's one shot in it when I'm in the background but it's so dark you can't see anyone
[2012-8-08. : 12:21 am]  Oh_Man -- Male stripper.
[2012-8-08. : 12:21 am]  Lanthanide -- I'm not on that video (thankfully)
[2012-8-08. : 12:21 am]  Lanthanide -- software development: http://alliedtelesis.co.nz/jobs/
[2012-8-08. : 12:21 am]  DevliN -- What do you do for a living?
[2012-8-08. : 12:20 am]  Lanthanide -- NZ...
[2012-8-08. : 12:20 am]  Lanthanide -- my job
[2012-8-08. : 12:20 am]  Oh_Man -- Where do you live again Lanth??
[2012-8-08. : 12:20 am]  Lanthanide -- note that because my country has a functioning health system, "health insurance" is an uncommon perk, rather than something every job comes with
[2012-8-08. : 12:20 am]  Oh_Man -- So basically it would be for everyone's best interests if christianity stopped preaching, that way no one finds out about it and we all go straight to partyland when we die.
[2012-8-08. : 12:20 am]  BiOAtK -- what job is that lanth?
[2012-8-08. : 12:17 am]  jjf28 -- he starts talking about how if you don't know about Jesus, you are condemned to hell by Christianity, which totally ignores... hold on let me find the verse
[2012-8-08. : 12:16 am]  Lanthanide -- yip
[2012-8-08. : 12:16 am]  Oh_Man -- :O BIRTHDAY LEAVE??
[2012-8-08. : 12:16 am]  Lanthanide -- only worked after 7pm on 2 nights ever and worked 4 days on the weekends...
[2012-8-08. : 12:16 am]  Lanthanide -- + 4 weeks annual leave, +11 days public holidays, +1 day birthday leave, +3 days long service leave (next year), health insurance, gym, pool, sauna, spa pool
[2012-8-08. : 12:15 am]  Oh_Man -- the part about the murders absolution, or the part about how god had to rescind his own rules
[2012-8-08. : 12:15 am]  Lanthanide -- $36.44/hr
[2012-8-08. : 12:14 am]  Oh_Man -- which part is the strawman
[2012-8-08. : 12:13 am]  Oh_Man -- kk
[2012-8-08. : 12:13 am]  Oh_Man -- 1 hour 2 minutes?
[2012-8-08. : 12:13 am]  jjf28 -- 1:02:00*
[2012-8-08. : 12:13 am]  Oh_Man -- huh 1:02 sam harris isn't speaking??
[2012-8-08. : 12:11 am]  jjf28 -- prior to that I thought the debate was interesting, for someone who accepts objective morality that is
[2012-8-08. : 12:10 am]  jjf28 -- lost respect for Harris at about 1:02 when he started going far off topic with straw mans on the side http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqaHXKLRKzg
[2012-8-08. : 12:09 am]  Fire_Kame -- what is your mom's field sac
[2012-8-08. : 12:09 am]  DevliN -- I guess if I divided my weekly salary up to make it look like an 8 hour day rather than the normal 10-12, that would be $25 an hour.
[2012-8-08. : 12:08 am]  DevliN -- I wish I made 25 an hour :/
[2012-8-08. : 12:08 am]  Raitaki -- Oh_Man I make $0/<ERROR DIVISION BY ZERO>
[2012-8-08. : 12:07 am]  Sacrieur -- ;_;
[2012-8-08. : 12:07 am]  Oh_Man -- pfft who doesnt make 25 an hour
[2012-8-08. : 12:06 am]  Sacrieur -- he's made it clear he makes $25/hour
[2012-8-08. : 12:06 am]  Sacrieur -- why shouldn't I accept the money nude?
[2012-8-08. : 12:06 am]  Sacrieur -- :3
[2012-8-08. : 12:05 am]  Oh_Man -- ok reply to me wen u want thru email or msn
[2012-8-08. : 12:04 am]  Sacrieur -- he's a neuroscientist
[2012-8-08. : 12:03 am]  Jack[RCDF -- ohman yeh but not today, I'm exhausted and busy doing android tablet modding and reading books and stuff
[2012-8-08. : 12:03 am]  Oh_Man -- lol hardcore testing going down in donuts: http://puu.sh/PBgR
[2012-8-08. : 12:01 am]  Oh_Man -- the fuck demon??
[2012-8-08. : 12:01 am]  Dem0n -- stfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[2012-8-08. : 12:01 am]  Dem0n -- jack stop talking
[2012-8-08. : 12:01 am]  Oh_Man -- jack do u still want to continue discussion thru another mediuM??
[2012-8-08. : 12:00 am]  Jack[RCDF -- I'm reading Sam Harris' letter to a Christian Nation and he's a noob lolol
[2012-8-07. : 11:59 pm]  Oh_Man -- Why do you think it is immoral NR?
[2012-8-07. : 11:57 pm]  NudeRaider -- now donating the money is a whole other story...
[2012-8-07. : 11:56 pm]  Oh_Man -- take the money, i will give to second place of my RPG event
[2012-8-07. : 11:53 pm]  Fire_Kame -- fine I'm leaving
[2012-8-07. : 11:53 pm]  Fire_Kame -- ...
[2012-8-07. : 11:53 pm]  NudeRaider -- Kame, I don't know much about American beer, but I've been told German beer is generally spicier and tastier and we have much more varieties. Haven't heard of Fat Tire before.
[2012-8-07. : 11:51 pm]  Fire_Kame -- :-(
[2012-8-07. : 11:51 pm]  NudeRaider -- Didn't expect anything else from you, Az. But for me it'd go against my morals and reason for being on SEN to take money for helping with mapping.
[2012-8-07. : 11:48 pm]  Azrael -- :awesome:
[2012-8-07. : 11:48 pm]  IskatuMesk -- sry I leave SEN on idle for hours at a time
[2012-8-07. : 11:48 pm]  Azrael -- Second, he can't fix the map.
[2012-8-07. : 11:48 pm]  Azrael -- First, he should definitely accept the money if he can fix the map.
[2012-8-07. : 11:47 pm]  Fire_Kame -- wtf does everyone have the sbox set to "ignore kame" :-(
[2012-8-07. : 11:44 pm]  Fire_Kame -- hey Nude while I'm busy stereotyping you what is your opinion on American beer and do you have Fat Tire over there?
[2012-8-07. : 11:42 pm]  Fire_Kame -- Nude what are you saying?! 6Yu're German...where's your die hard Industrial opinion?
[2012-8-07. : 11:40 pm]  NudeRaider -- Sac you're not actually going to accept his money, are you?
[2012-8-07. : 11:35 pm]  Fire_Kame -- I'm not good at being a nerd
[2012-8-07. : 11:34 pm]  Fire_Kame -- oh who am I kidding? I am going to do it. but not with those nerd things
[2012-8-07. : 11:30 pm]  Oh_Man -- we shuld do email or msn
[2012-8-07. : 11:30 pm]  Oh_Man -- cecil doesnt like how we are going about the discussion and he deleted my defence of it
[2012-8-07. : 11:28 pm]  Fire_Kame -- if I had lower standards I'd do it.
[2012-8-07. : 11:24 pm]  Fire_Kame -- bitches love big bang theory
[2012-8-07. : 11:24 pm]  Fire_Kame -- and lines from big bang theory
[2012-8-07. : 11:24 pm]  Fire_Kame -- :bleh: like Nuclear Launch Detected
[2012-8-07. : 11:23 pm]  Fire_Kame -- you should make stupid buttons and sell them on etsy. faux nerdy crap.
[2012-8-07. : 11:21 pm]  Sacrieur -- I'll fix that guys map, that'll give me money.
[2012-8-07. : 11:20 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- ohman, why's that?
[2012-8-07. : 11:19 pm]  Sacrieur -- =D
[2012-8-07. : 11:19 pm]  Sacrieur -- no!
[2012-8-07. : 11:18 pm]  Fire_Kame -- sacrieur shut up and take my money!
[2012-8-07. : 11:02 pm]  Dem0n -- Roy, you're beginning to hurt my feelings now. :(
[2012-8-07. : 10:47 pm]  LoveLess -- sweet jesus, this guy's videos are gold
[2012-8-07. : 10:47 pm]  LoveLess -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u68ZEOv9fWs
[2012-8-07. : 10:43 pm]  Sacrieur -- we've been paying it off, so that's another large blow
[2012-8-07. : 10:43 pm]  Sacrieur -- we were, and we racked up some debt just to live
[2012-8-07. : 10:42 pm]  Oh_Man -- jack - we have to continue our discussion outside SD
[2012-8-07. : 10:42 pm]  TiKels -- you probably should if you can
[2012-8-07. : 10:41 pm]  Sacrieur -- Well, we're not on government assistance, so there's that.
[2012-8-07. : 10:37 pm]  Jack[RCDF -- what sac said
[2012-8-07. : 10:36 pm]  TiKels -- only like 60% of people aged 18-24 are enrolled in college
[2012-8-07. : 10:36 pm]  Sacrieur -- Welcome to real fucking life, where shit aint fair and you just have to deal with it.
[2012-8-07. : 10:35 pm]  Dem0n -- that's terrible.
[2012-8-07. : 10:35 pm]  Sacrieur -- She has a degree, she's working in her field, and she's making $12 an hour.
[2012-8-07. : 10:35 pm]  Sacrieur -- I don't know how much you think my family gets paid, but it's not much.
[2012-8-07. : 10:35 pm]  Dem0n -- Does she get paid more than $10/hour?
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