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[2016-7-21. : 8:31 pm]
CecilSunkure -- But in practice that just never happens
[2016-7-21. : 8:31 pm]
CecilSunkure -- If somehow code that is good arised from an OOP methodology, then it doesn't matter
[2016-7-21. : 8:31 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Yes, I agree
[2016-7-21. : 8:30 pm]
Mini Moose 2707 -- But yeah, the how OOP something is debate is dumb. If someone does something good with it, you just label it thinking. And then everyone disagrees. Shit, we can't even agree on what "generic" means, so how the hell are we ever going to get to OOP?
[2016-7-21. : 8:27 pm]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Though we'd have a lot to agree on for overengineering. Wrote new implementations of some interfaces at work that ditch inheritance and fields that my group doesn't care about (like getting rid of the Math.BigDecimal backing that nobody uses when they only use the constructor that takes a double and the method that returns it) ... the profiler clocks it ~5-50x faster depending on what methods you're using.
[2016-7-21. : 8:25 pm]
jjf28 -- /shittymeme
[2016-7-21. : 8:24 pm]
jjf28 -- NQFT
[2016-7-21. : 8:24 pm]
Mini Moose 2707 -- It's not less OOP because you implemented some concepts of OOP independently
[2016-7-21. : 8:23 pm]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Yeah, but if it looks the same and works the same, does it really matter if OOP was implied intentionally to determine if it's OOP or not?
[2016-7-21. : 8:21 pm]
CecilSunkure -- The creator could have been applying a number of ideas, or just doing whatever made the most sense for the problem
[2016-7-21. : 8:20 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Also I will admit that if good code is written, that *looks* like it came from the engineer following an OOP-paradihm, it does not mean OOP was applied during creation
[2016-7-21. : 8:19 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Which sounds like a Valid PostTM for the topic
[2016-7-21. : 8:16 pm]
Mini Moose 2707 -- TBH, I still think the thing Cecil hates is people writing shitty overengineered code, which often results from OOP, coincidentally or not. He even admitted it in the shoutbox, but went back to obfuscating his opinion in OOP-hate about ten minutes after that.
[2016-7-21. : 8:15 pm]
Mini Moose 2707 -- Vrael
Vrael shouted: C++ is so much more work
Vrael
Vrael shouted: no wonder cecil hates OOP
Again, C++ is pretty bad at being an OOP language.
[2016-7-21. : 6:40 pm]
Sie_Sayoka -- also thanks cecil i moved the location of the base and it works
[2016-7-21. : 6:36 pm]
CecilSunkure -- GIVE THAT MAN SOME MINERALS
[2016-7-21. : 6:31 pm]
jjf28 -- Vrael
Vrael shouted: though I gotta say, if we just standardized and formalized some class methods and names, added a bit to automatically cleanup dynamic memory, and threw that in a loop to dynamically type things at runtime things would be so much easi OH MY GOD I JUST DESCRIBED PYTHON AGAIN
smart pointers!, but yea, more typing more learning curve
[2016-7-21. : 6:31 pm]
Sand Wraith -- the next best is that all cops are pigs :')
[2016-7-21. : 6:30 pm]
Sand Wraith -- the best explanation I've been introduced to is "it's Florida"
[2016-7-21. : 6:30 pm]
Sand Wraith -- remember that time a cop shot at a black therapist and an autistic guy and when asked why he shot, he replied "I don't know"?
[2016-7-21. : 6:27 pm]
Corbo -- I thought this guy's name was DarkNakedFantasies
[2016-7-21. : 6:26 pm]
Corbo -- I've been reading that very wrong.
[2016-7-21. : 6:16 pm]
Sie_Sayoka -- thanks darenedfantasies it worked perfectly :)
[2016-7-21. : 5:56 pm]
Alzarath -- I always thought Python is a bit *too* easy.
[2016-7-21. : 5:56 pm]
Vrael -- though I gotta say, if we just standardized and formalized some class methods and names, added a bit to automatically cleanup dynamic memory, and threw that in a loop to dynamically type things at runtime things would be so much easi OH MY GOD I JUST DESCRIBED PYTHON AGAIN
[2016-7-21. : 5:54 pm]
Vrael -- no wonder cecil hates OOP
[2016-7-21. : 5:54 pm]
Vrael -- C++ is so much more work
[2016-7-21. : 5:54 pm]
Vrael -- my god I had forgotten why I use python
[2016-7-21. : 5:28 pm]
DarkenedFantasies -- :-(
[2016-7-21. : 5:25 pm]
Corbo -- Well, I am a capitalist. So no.
[2016-7-21. : 5:24 pm]
CecilSunkure -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: the poor.
[2016-7-21. : 5:24 pm]
DarkenedFantasies -- Cecil gave some to me, so I guess he's talking about me.
[2016-7-21. : 5:19 pm]
NudeRaider -- the poor.
[2016-7-21. : 5:17 pm]
Corbo -- wait, who are we supposed to give mineralsto?
[2016-7-21. : 5:16 pm]
DarkenedFantasies -- Yay! I no longer have a mineral deficiency!
[2016-7-21. : 5:15 pm]
DarkenedFantasies -- :O
[2016-7-21. : 5:11 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Someone quick, award this man some minerals
[2016-7-21. : 5:08 pm]
CecilSunkure -- but you can't do class class, so then I do class asscl, and then finish it up as: class assclown {};
[2016-7-21. : 5:07 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Sometimes I feel like ass isn't respecting the word "class", so I want to add in "cl" back to the name
[2016-7-21. : 5:06 pm]
CecilSunkure -- It's natural to name it ass
[2016-7-21. : 5:06 pm]
Vrael -- class ass{};
[2016-7-21. : 5:06 pm]
Vrael -- how did you know I named my class ass?
[2016-7-21. : 5:06 pm]
Vrael -- doesn't it just hurt so good
[2016-7-21. : 5:06 pm]
CecilSunkure -- (cl as in the cl.exe compiler, and ass as in ass.cpp)
[2016-7-21. : 5:06 pm]
Vrael -- the semicolon
[2016-7-21. : 5:06 pm]
Vrael -- now the brackets are going down
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
CecilSunkure -- More like cl ass
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
Vrael -- now the name
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
Vrael -- already wrote the class keyword
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
Vrael -- too late
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
CecilSunkure -- No you can't.
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
CecilSunkure -- lol
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
Vrael -- doesn't that make you so angry
[2016-7-21. : 5:05 pm]
Vrael -- Cecil, I'm about to write a giant C++ class
[2016-7-21. : 5:04 pm]
Vrael -- I wuz triggurd
[2016-7-21. : 5:04 pm]
Vrael -- but srsly I posted in ur topic
[2016-7-21. : 5:02 pm]
CecilSunkure -- trig :hurr:
[2016-7-21. : 5:02 pm]
Vrael -- I have ben TRRRRRRIIIIGGGGGUUUUUUURRRRRHHHHHDDDD
[2016-7-21. : 4:48 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Trigger WarningTM
[2016-7-21. : 4:48 pm]
KrayZee -- A lot of rewards in the Harry Potter boxes.
[2016-7-21. : 4:48 pm]
jjf28 -- you've just revoked respect privileges :P
[2016-7-21. : 4:47 pm]
jjf28 -- CecilSunkure
CecilSunkure shouted: But in the SB I mostly just feed into the poor word definitions just to trigger people into looking up definitions themselves and hopefully forming their own opinion
:ex::cecil:
[2016-7-21. : 4:47 pm]
Corbo -- oh yeah, you're great
[2016-7-21. : 4:45 pm]
CecilSunkure -- But in the SB I mostly just feed into the poor word definitions just to trigger people into looking up definitions themselves and hopefully forming their own opinion
[2016-7-21. : 4:44 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Threads are good for actually making real points with substance
[2016-7-21. : 4:43 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Well the little discussion in the shoutbox was mostly people disagreeing on what words meant, or saying that OOP is prolific and therefor great
[2016-7-21. : 4:38 pm]
Corbo -- because I'm an asshole like that
[2016-7-21. : 4:38 pm]
jjf28 -- also, saving SEN from activity, saving programmers from learning tricks, etc.
[2016-7-21. : 4:36 pm]
jjf28 -- save me from my fun? HOW DARE YOU :flamer:
[2016-7-21. : 4:36 pm]
Corbo -- why are you arguing me? I am trying to save you guys :'(



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