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[06:39 am]  jjf28 -- hmm... wonder if SEN would parse a backspace character
[06:39 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Hey that runescape stuff is what my friend spams me on steam because I guess he has an auto-typer thing that he doesn't turn off
[06:39 am]  jjf28 -- :bye3 ::
[06:39 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- :bye3 : it doesn't include the last colon
[06:38 am]  payne -- how is it broken?
[06:38 am]  jjf28 -- feels like runescape, glow2:slide:selling guthix skirt 300k!
[06:38 am]  payne -- :bye2: < nubz.
[06:38 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- It's bye1, bye2, and bye3
[06:37 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- xD bye3 is broken
[06:37 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- wait, what. :bye3 :
[06:37 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- :bye1: :bye2: :bye3 :
[06:37 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- :bye1:
[06:37 am]  jjf28 -- :wave2:
[06:37 am]  jjf28 -- :wave:
[06:37 am]  jjf28 -- :bye:
[06:37 am]  payne -- whatevs...
[06:37 am]  payne -- omg...! isn't :bye: the smiley?
[06:37 am]  payne -- ":bye: :nude: " - :payne:
[06:36 am]  payne -- darn...
[06:36 am]  payne -- :ciao: :nude: - :payne:
[06:36 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- I only say that because I see you making like passionate arguments while I'm pretty sure Az was mostly just screwing around. :P
[06:36 am]  jjf28 -- it means it doesn't belong to any declaration of that class, it lives in its own world
[06:35 am]  NudeRaider -- bye off to work (im already like an hour later than I should be :P )
[06:35 am]  payne -- :massimo:
[06:35 am]  NudeRaider -- lol it might be true that I'm more passionate about cars than about environment. Your comment just made me realize that. Despite thinking that environment is an important topic and that Americans need to pay more attention to it. Maybe it's also because I think it would be hopeless to argue or because there wasn't a point I felt was so wrong I needed to refute it. But yeah probably passion is playing a role in that decision. :P
[06:34 am]  jjf28 -- :devlin: :payne: :wob:
[06:34 am]  jjf28 -- oh how needy he must be
[06:34 am]  payne -- but what does the damn "static" mean?
[06:34 am]  jjf28 -- :payne:
[06:33 am]  payne -- i guess I had forgotten that :awesome:
[06:32 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Isn't that the same as C? xD
[06:31 am]  payne -- oh I see, no "void" means there is a "return" !
[06:31 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- The wikipedia disambiguation page on 'germ' or 'germs' says nothing about Germany. So I can only assume Payne just said it. :P
[06:30 am]  jjf28 -- something something crappy at flying something something
[06:30 am]  payne -- hehe, germsters!
[06:29 am]  payne -- Das Capital.
[06:29 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- I've never heard that either.
[06:29 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Oh, you mean Germs
[06:29 am]  payne -- "Das Auto"
[06:29 am]  ShadowFlare -- I mean, I've never heard someone call them that.
[06:29 am]  payne -- JAVA: when do I need to add "void" after "static"? in my notes I see "static int NAME(blah, blah, blah) { " without any void... why is that?
[06:29 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- No. It's just my understanding that Germans love their cars, a lot, and take them very seriously. :P
[06:28 am]  ShadowFlare -- Has that been used as some kind of racial slur for Germans?
[06:26 am]  payne -- dem germs...
[06:26 am]  jjf28 -- also the comment "seeing as he doesn't get in an accident while doing all that, i've got to agree with him" =D
[06:26 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- xD That video is very appropriate.
[06:25 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- He's German. Of course car debates are the most interesting and relevant. :P
[06:25 am]  Azrael -- :P
[06:24 am]  jjf28 -- http://youtu.be/rwA1VIeH4vw
[06:24 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- I text with both hands while driving. Having to use hands to drive would be the worst.
[06:24 am]  payne -- car debates are more interesting/relevant to you than environmental debates?
[06:24 am]  Azrael -- Or anything in your hand. How would American drivers be able to text while driving?
[06:24 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- I mean you can go to two-lane highways, but they have such light traffic you could probably just drive in the opposite lane.
[06:24 am]  NudeRaider -- Azrael -- They just cry about the price of gas. >>> That just made me cringe, but lets not get into environmental debate.
[06:23 am]  NudeRaider -- However one point for automatic is drinking (soft drinks!) while driving. :D It's difficult (yet not impossible) to shift gears with a bottle in your hand.
[06:23 am]  jjf28 -- "the check engine light's fine, it's still blinking away, it's the stupid engine that's broken"
[06:23 am]  Azrael -- If you smell burning syrup, it's time to check the radiator fluid.
[06:23 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- We have two lanes either way, so that's not a very common scenario. :awesome:
[06:22 am]  jjf28 -- if the check engine light's blinking the light must be broken :wob:
[06:22 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Like my friend's first car. xD
[06:22 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Or, you know, if the engine seizes up.
[06:22 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Change oil if the oil light comes on or the check engine light comes on.
[06:22 am]  jjf28 -- car maintenance so overrated
[06:22 am]  NudeRaider -- And another stupid automatic scenario: You're overtaking, and instead of staying in the lower gear for the entire process of building speed (and accept it going high rev for a short time) it shifts up, which slows down acceleration and makes the process more dangerous (unexpected traffic coming against)
[06:21 am]  Azrael -- They just cry about the price of gas.
[06:21 am]  Azrael -- Americans don't care about vehicle performance, you're lucky if they even change their oil regularly.
[06:21 am]  jjf28 -- err, the main class privately declares any descendants*
[06:21 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Oh yeah. My step dad who is from somewhere over there came over here with my mom to go on a roadtrip and I guess complained the whole time because it was a multi-hour drive between destinations. P
[06:20 am]  payne -- but Nude, it's generally longer distances for american travelers, I would think. Thus, more incentive to learn to have more performance from your car.
[06:20 am]  jjf28 -- main should call a "true main" method within your main class, which privately declares any descendants
[06:19 am]  Azrael -- xD
[06:19 am]  payne -- (in Java)
[06:19 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- But then where are the instances of objects?
[06:19 am]  payne -- aside from "static", what are the other types of methods?
[06:19 am]  NudeRaider -- thinking about it in the shower I realized there might be a cultural background to it: We Europeans like to perform our cars the best we can, even if we have to invest some time to learn how to do it, while Americans just want the thing to get them from A to B the easiest way possible. :P
[06:19 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- by calling it 'conventions'
[06:18 am]  jjf28 -- there's no place for a global in pure OOP
[06:18 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- I kind of meant improving code and stuff by conventions :P
[06:18 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Do like instances of classes count as variables if you can't have global variables? Because if that is the case, where do you put them? :P
[06:18 am]  payne -- do I only need to state "public" infront of the "main" method?
[06:17 am]  jjf28 -- hell no, take a programming class to explore ways to improve your productivity and code; and also test your patience when doing ridiculously restricted projects
[06:17 am]  payne -- rofl, they don't like globals?
[06:17 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- ... that seems really bad xD
[06:16 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- I'm unfamiliar with them other than what I have found makes it easier for me, personally
[06:16 am]  jjf28 -- public static TYPENAME VARNAME = INITVALUE
[06:16 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Should I take programming classes to learn "proper" conventions? :P
[06:15 am]  jjf28 -- as far as an object oriented professor would be concerned though, you lose 50% credit for using a global
[06:14 am]  payne -- asinine?
[06:14 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- I don't know if that is the case in Java
[06:13 am]  jjf28 -- you can have globals by using asinine syntax :P
[06:13 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- In looking it up for C, "2.0" is a double, "2.0f" is a float
[06:13 am]  payne -- (or vars that would be outside of a method)
[06:12 am]  jjf28 -- prolly, might use double; but with 'f' it unambiguously determines that something is to be used as a 32-bit float
[06:12 am]  payne -- in Java, I can't declare global variables, right? (vars that would be outside of a class)
[06:12 am]  Azrael -- If gasoline had originally needed to be pumped into the engine's combustion chamber with a foot pedal, there'd be people still using "manual combustion engines" and saying "IT HAS ADVANTAGES! I GET MORE MILES TO THE GALLON BECAUSE I ACTUALLY SUPPLY THE GAS AS IT'S NEEDED, RATHER THAN AUTOMATIC COMBUSTION WHICH JUST GUESSTIMATES AN IMPERFECT QUANTITY OF GAS BASED ON HOW MUCH AIR IS DIRECTED INTO THE ENGINE!! I SAVE AT LEAST $1000 A MONTH ON GAS!!!"
[06:11 am]  payne -- ah, I see, the 'F' actually tells the compiler "change that int into a float"
[06:11 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- anyway, back at 'always use double?', always use floats unless you need the higher precision or you are getting rounding errors in your math
[06:11 am]  payne -- and actually, wouldn't there be an error because it can't store decimals into an integer var?
[06:10 am]  payne -- but then "int i = 5/2.0" would still do the trick, no?
[06:10 am]  O)FaRTy1billion -- Oh. My compiler didn't yell at me for float a = 1. :P
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