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May 11 2008, 6:17 pm
By: JordanN  

May 11 2008, 6:17 pm JordanN Post #1



The weirdest twist of fate ever. Just when I was at the height of my drawing skills, it vanished! Kaput. Dried up. Gone.

I'm not sure how but 3 days after I last drew, I just came up with an ugly sketch. I then tried over 9000 times to make a decent sketch circle and it comes out ugly. I then tried to trace another work of mine and it came up horrible. Can someone explain to me, what's going on! I even use focus lines to guide me but that too just stopped working!

To elaborate; it's like learning how to ride a bike, then landing head first on the pavement, 5 minutes after learning.
Or painting the mona lisa one day, and then forgetting how to use the brush in the first place.



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May 11 2008, 8:06 pm Syphon Post #2



You finally reliased that you NEVER KNEW HOW TO DRAW.

ou cannot draw JordanN, get it through your head. You could never draw. You will never be able to draw. You have no discernible artistic talent whatsoever.



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May 11 2008, 10:06 pm JordanN Post #3



Quote from Syphon
You finally reliased that you NEVER KNEW HOW TO DRAW.

ou cannot draw JordanN, get it through your head. You could never draw. You will never be able to draw. You have no discernible artistic talent whatsoever.

Lawls. I love that last part of your sentence Syphon. "never be able to draw". Most contradicting statement since Microsoft Works.

Sigh, I don't want to pay money for a course just to get the artist feel again. It's just so weird how once a talent I discovered 3 years ago just escapes me just like this. Anyone have any real suggestions on how I can get the feel again. Cause I'm too far in it to just drop out just like that.

Also, who gave you the sciencedamn right to say, who makes art. Unless your the God of art then...

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on May 12 2008, 1:21 am by Dapperdan.



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May 12 2008, 2:08 am Symmetry Post #4

Dungeon Master

JordanN, Syphon's just being a silly nanny. I know you can draw =) All you have to do is believe in yourself and it'll come back =)



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May 12 2008, 2:12 am Syphon Post #5



There's nothing contradictory in the statement "never be able to draw" you simply have no artistic talent whatsoever.



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May 12 2008, 2:36 am Hercanic Post #6

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Syphon, dude, totally uncalled for. Your attitude is pathetic.




May 12 2008, 3:09 am Doodan Post #7



I would say Syphon's being harsh on him, but if you had been keeping track of Jordan's history over the last couple of years, you would see that he has either deliberately or indirectly pissed off and offended everyone here in some way. Syphon's not reacting that way for no reason.

As for my serious advice (Dare I try giving some), I have 2 suggestions:

1) Get a book on drawing, or take a course, or just force yourself to sit down and work until you recover. I would say that you certainly need improvement. Your "painting the mona lisa and forgetting how to use the brush" comment is extremely laughable given the context. I wouldn't dare say something like that. Maybe this is the chance you need to redefine your abilities.

2) Or... take a break. When I was working on the cartoon (or some other past project) sometimes I would get so sick of it that I just had to stop, because I hated everything I was doing. Staying away from it for a few weeks would help.



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May 12 2008, 3:21 am EzDay281 Post #8



Hm...
On Doodan's second suggestion, it does sound reasonable.
Though perhaps a rather different situation, I found that, back when I actualy tried to draw, rather than doodle, I would occasionaly hit a wall for a couple weeks, during which I could not at all motivate myself to draw... and then suddenly I'd start producing things much better than I had before such recessions, afterwards.
The same might apply here.



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May 12 2008, 3:21 am InsolubleFluff Post #9



Isn't syphon suppoed to be a role model?



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May 12 2008, 3:42 am Rantent Post #10



Sharpen your pencil. Sometimes that works.



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May 12 2008, 5:15 am Hercanic Post #11

STF mod creator, Modcrafters.com admin, CampaignCreations.org staff

Regardless of past transgressions on Jordan's part, a moderator should have higher standards of conduct.




May 12 2008, 12:03 pm Syphon Post #12



I'm not reacting this way because he pissed me off, I'm being serious, and sincere, he needs to find a better hobby, because he has no artistic talent. Go look through the "post original artwork" thread and judge for yourself.

If he was like "I'm trying to get better at drawing blah blah blah" I'd give him advice, but he's not, he's claiming to have a talent for something he doesn't, and it's insulting to people who actually know how to draw.



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May 12 2008, 2:09 pm JordanN Post #13



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There's nothing contradictory in the statement "never be able to draw" you simply have no artistic talent whatsoever.
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I'm not reacting this way because he pissed me off, I'm being serious, and sincere, he needs to find a better hobby, because he has no artistic talent. Go look through the "post original artwork" thread and judge for yourself.

If he was like "I'm trying to get better at drawing blah blah blah" I'd give him advice, but he's not, he's claiming to have a talent for something he doesn't, and it's insulting to people who actually know how to draw.

:-_-: That's right everyone. Syphons got the eyes of the art god (death note reference there)! What he see's, automatically transforms into reality. /sarcasm
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Go look through the "post original artwork" thread and judge for yourself.
Opinion, opinion and opinion some more.
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If he was like "I'm trying to get better at drawing blah blah blah" I'd give him advice,
Yea thanks except I need to get the feel first.

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1) Get a book on drawing, or take a course, or just force yourself to sit down and work until you recover. I would say that you certainly need improvement. Your "painting the mona lisa and forgetting how to use the brush" comment is extremely laughable given the context. I wouldn't dare say something like that. Maybe this is the chance you need to redefine your abilities.
1.I do have a book on drawing that I read every day non-stop. I even try to read all the books on art at my library. 2.As mentioned, I've been forcing myself over 9000 times since this incident began but it still isn't what I could accomplish before.
3. Not really. Can you paint a mona lisa without a brush (in it's context)?
4. Prehaps so but at the same time would drag me away from my main point.
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2) Or... take a break. Staying away from it for a few weeks would help.
That's what brought me to forget.
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Sharpen your pencil. Sometimes that works.
It's the opposite to me.

Also, for that post about that girl I drew, it was more of an experiment on what it would it be like if I started drawing in a more "manga"-esque tone. So of course, the first result will be as ugly as sin but it was a dramatic change that I liked. See, notice how I admit to that fault but not to the others Syphon mentioned. :bleh: The thing about this new style to me is that drawing the torso is a bitch. According to the book I was reading, the preferred method is making an open triangle and then adding shoulders then filling the rest in. Which is quite confusing . So I guess my mentality didn't like this and just cut it off, just like that. And all the other books also teach the same thing or something close to it.

Edit: Also I chose "manga" styled drawing because to me, it gave the drawing more definition then you would see (excluding Disney) in average cartoons.



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May 12 2008, 5:21 pm Moose Post #14

We live in a society.

Quote from JordanN
:-_-: That's right everyone. Syphons got the eyes of the art god (death note reference there)! What he see's, automatically transforms into reality. /sarcasm
Syphon's point is that you used the term contradiction incorrectly.

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Sharpen your pencil. Sometimes that works.
LOL. Syphon, this is the type of flame you should've done. :P

Quote from Hercanic
Syphon, dude, totally uncalled for. Your attitude is pathetic.
I couldn't agree more. Syphon's attitude here is clearly unbecoming of a Global Moderator. His GM status is revoked until further notice.




May 12 2008, 5:34 pm JordanN Post #15



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Syphon's point is that you used the term contradiction incorrectly.

Mmmkay then. What I meant was, his sentence was flawed.

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I couldn't agree more. Syphon's attitude here is clearly unbecoming of a Global Moderator. His GM status is revoked until further notice.

Epic win.



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