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Yeah, on my computer, which can run HL2Ep2 at full specs, 1700 units lags me up. Not fun.
Yeah it probley lags everyone. Im not running a monster machine, but I can handle 12 human players, online, with full vision of the map on WarCraft III. If you have ever played, you know that this is quite the feat.
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This is a guide to detecting the map max. In my Phantom map, I triggered the map to remove larva when the map maxes, to make a little extra room for other units. I guess you can remove other useless units too, whatever you need to do to keep the map under the max.
This is a guide to detecting the map max. In my Phantom map, I triggered the map to remove larva when the map maxes, to make a little extra room for other units. I guess you can remove other useless units too, whatever you need to do to keep the map under the max.
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1700 is alot of units. Its the map max for a reason. What are you doing that you would need more then 1700 units/buildings on your map, all at once? O.o'
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I'm not sure but from my experience the lag that is created near 1700 units is NOT dependent on the power of your computer or on which triggers are executed. It just ALWAYS lags when closing to the limit.
That seems like some kind of limit Blizzard built in to keep players away from the max, even though it WOULD be possible to play without lag.
Look at it this way: I can play with no problems with at least 1000 units but I only have 1,2 GHz / 384 MB RAM, so you guys with 2,4+ GHz / 1 GB RAM should theoretically be able to play lag-free with 2000+ units, right?
And Farty, there IS another limit for how many units can shoot at once. And I'm positive it's FAR LESS than 500 in a map without preplaced doodads/sprites. When I was told correctly it is 250 or 200 which is quite believable when watching the ingame behavior.
That seems like some kind of limit Blizzard built in to keep players away from the max, even though it WOULD be possible to play without lag.
Look at it this way: I can play with no problems with at least 1000 units but I only have 1,2 GHz / 384 MB RAM, so you guys with 2,4+ GHz / 1 GB RAM should theoretically be able to play lag-free with 2000+ units, right?
And Farty, there IS another limit for how many units can shoot at once. And I'm positive it's FAR LESS than 500 in a map without preplaced doodads/sprites. When I was told correctly it is 250 or 200 which is quite believable when watching the ingame behavior.
Aren't unit graphics/animations themselves also technically sprites?
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And Farty, there IS another limit for how many units can shoot at once. And I'm positive it's FAR LESS than 500 in a map without preplaced doodads/sprites. When I was told correctly it is 250 or 200 which is quite believable when watching the ingame behavior.
Farty was talking about preplaced sprites, which the limit is 499 for. I think that attack animation sprites and preplaced sprites use a different limit, although I might be wrong, I know for sure that the attack animation + preplaced sprites limit is higher than 499 though.
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Aren't unit graphics/animations themselves also technically sprites?
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The actual sprite limit in StarCraft is 2500 (anything counts as a sprite in that case.)
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There are many ums map types for which CCMU (cannot create more units) is a problem. I have an arena style map i'm making which has 855 preplaced units atm. Some maps would probably go as high as 3000 if they didnt max out.
Oh and maxed units is not going to lag even the humblest of comps, SC is now over 10 years old, by Moore's law, that'd put current computers at least 32 times faster than those when it came out.
Oh and maxed units is not going to lag even the humblest of comps, SC is now over 10 years old, by Moore's law, that'd put current computers at least 32 times faster than those when it came out.
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pre-placed*Sprite limit: 499
Staredit sprite limit: 250
Staredit unit limit: 1650
Starcraft Unit limit: 1700
Starcraft sprite limit: 2500
Starcraft image limit: 5000
Starcraft weapon limit: 100, cutoff of 80 for Valkyrie
Staredit sprite limit: 250
Staredit unit limit: 1650
Starcraft Unit limit: 1700
Starcraft sprite limit: 2500
Starcraft image limit: 5000
Starcraft weapon limit: 100, cutoff of 80 for Valkyrie
Units and weapons contain sprites, sprites contain images. These limits hit fast and hard (especially when modding, and especially when you are IskatuMesk.
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Ah, 100 is the limit for how many units can shoot at once.
Is there any way to circumvent that limit? Or give important units a higher priority?
I guess not, but what I'm asking is ideas for workarounds in a map where every player controls a hero and there are many unimportant comp units "sucking away the heroes' shots".
EDIT: wait, I'll make a new topic for that:
http://www.staredit.net/topic/2317/
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 30 2008, 8:55 pm by NudeRaider.
Is there any way to circumvent that limit? Or give important units a higher priority?
I guess not, but what I'm asking is ideas for workarounds in a map where every player controls a hero and there are many unimportant comp units "sucking away the heroes' shots".
EDIT: wait, I'll make a new topic for that:
http://www.staredit.net/topic/2317/
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 30 2008, 8:55 pm by NudeRaider.
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Why you'd need over 1700 is a mystery to me.
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