Hi!

Is there a way to order a building owned by a player to lift off / land on location? If not, how could I preserve the buildings condition (HP) while createing a new one "landed" ?

What I am doing today is just creating a new one, but that sets the HP to 100% which is not my intention...

Traditionally no. But EUDs make a lot of things possible.

A pretty awkward way would be to detect the HP of the building and recreate it with that amount of hp.

Not sure if there's a way to force building to land via EUD. I'd guess removing the lift button should be easier, if that's an option for you. But I'll leave these questions open for people actually proficient with EUDs.

It is pretty easy to do with AI Scripts if you use the AISE plugin. Just write a short script containing a line like this:

issue_order(Land, 1, Terran Command Center, Loc.63, Loc.37, Any, 0)

Which would order 1 Terran Command Center, owned by the player running the script, found anywhere (Loc.63 = Anywhere) to land at the location #37 (location numbers are zero-based so it would be the 38th location in SCMDraft). The script may be then run at any location, or without a location at all.

He's asking for trigger solutions, not modding solutions.

Huh... all right, althought I don't think the OP said anything about a trigger solution specifically. There seems to be no trigger solution anyway, maybe something esoteric from the EUD realm.

Well this is in SC1 UMS Map Making Assistance, so odds are that he's looking for a trigger solution.

How is this done ? What software etc? Can it later be imported as a trigger to SCM Draft ?

What he suggests falls into the realm of modding. You will have to create your own .exe file and everyone who wants to play your mod will have to download it before hand. Then you can even play it over battle.net, but with these people only. Battle.net will not automatically distribute the mod like it does with a map file when a player doesn't have it. This is the reason why Demon mentioned it.

So if this is acceptable for you I'd move your topic to Modding Assistance. That forum section has topics about modding tools to answer your question and will be read by people that can help you get up to speed.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 20 2020, 10:27 am by NudeRaider.

I understand. Many thanks! :-)

Well... yes. You need to get PYMS (no idea if the other AI editors support extended commands). Probably this version: https://github.com/neivv/PyMS

1. Get the scripts\aiscript.bin and scripts\bwscript.bin from the game archives (PYMS provides clean default versions methinks).

2. Edit one of the blank scripts to include the liftoff order for the relevant buildings, and save them.

3. Edit the map specifying to run that AI Script (most of those only run for computer players, with very few exceptions) under the conditions of your choosing. Obviously you need to do these two parts concurrently as you need to specify the locations where the building is, and where it should be landed, as I had written before; you need either the exact location IDs that are made obvious only after you've created these locations in the editor, or the specific coordinates).

4. Build a mod with AISE present (I'm not sure where to get a compiled version as Neiv's there only seems to be the source code on Neiv's github. The exact procedure depends on which version of SC you're using. I can only speak for Remastered. The modloader SAMASE has its own thread here: http://www.staredit.net/topic/17430/ If you use it, you need to create a mod with the scripts\aiscript.bin, scripts\bwscript.bin, and samase\aise.dll. Also add a plain text file called 'plugins' to the samase\ folder containing the names of all the plugins you're going to use, in this case just:
samase/aise.dll

5. Patch the game.

P.S. In my case the landing script invoked during a mission looks like this:

# stat_txt.tbl entry 1348: Brood Wars Protoss 1 - Town D<0>
PB1D(1348, 101, bwscript):
issue_order(Land, 1, Terran Command Center, Loc.63, Loc.37, Any, 0)
issue_order(Land, 1, Terran Barracks, Loc.63, Loc.42, Any, 0)
issue_order(Land, 1, Terran Factory, Loc.63, Loc.53, Any, 0)
stop()

It replaces a blank Brood War script, of which there are 55ish, so you can write literally as many of them as you need. However, if you feel like conserving script slots and not doing separate ones for every little action like this, AISE also allows to evaluate death counters and jump accordingly, so setting a particular death counter through triggers right before a script is run and evaluating that same counter in the script's beginning allows for amazing branching.

The guide for basic (Starcraft and Brood War) AI commands is found here: http://pr0nogo.wikidot.com/rs-ai
The guide for extended (AISE) commands is found here: http://pr0nogo.wikidot.com/rs-ext-ai

I should note that issue_order is a goldmine of potential uses as it solves the long standing gripe of map authors being unable to issue any command other than move, attack or patrol to units. Even though it's done in a rather roundabout way, it still opens a new level of customizability when doing triggers.

It should be possible to directly order the unit to land/lift via EUDs. It requires knowledge of CUNIT and a system built around it if you have a variable unit index. Lifting will be easy but landing may be difficult if there's unbuildable terrain.

From what he described I doubt the buildings are over unbuildable terrain, unless flown there.

What about the option to prevent lifting in the first place?

Doesn't EUD allow for, ah, adding custom AI Scripts?

Lifting can be prevented by simply removing the buttons on the command card. Creating a new unit with the detected HP amount would be a good idea as suggested earlier.

Yes, EUDs allow for custom AI scripts.