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StarCraft: Remastered
Mar 17 2017, 2:50 am
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Mar 17 2017, 2:50 am ClansAreForGays Post #1



Download from here
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20753737831



More info here > https://starcraft.com/en-us/

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Mar 17 2017, 4:51 am LoveLess Post #2

Let me show you how to hump without making love.

Touched up models, some bnet updates, and bug fixes. That's all I am really expecting. If they actually give the game a major facelift, I will be pretty surprised.



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Mar 17 2017, 4:26 pm Dem0n Post #3

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There aren't any game changes. Just new graphics and better bnet support, but everyone is on ICCup anyways, so w/e.




Mar 17 2017, 6:45 pm ClansAreForGays Post #4



I think one of the worst things that is hurting the game is how split up the community is. 4 different b.net servers, iccup, fish, game ranger, etc.
Maybe this will give is just 1 or 2 servers for everyone to have games fill quickly with.
I think just consolidating the remaining community to one server would alone be enough to make sc my #1 game again.




Mar 18 2017, 8:50 pm Dem0n Post #5

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Why would anyone want to go back to bnet though? Unless they add a built-in anti-hack, there's no reason to use it. ICCup is secure in that sense, which makes it better. Also, you can play whatever map you want with dozens of people there, so I don't know what community schism you're talking about.




Mar 18 2017, 10:05 pm NudeRaider Post #6

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Bnet is the default option. People don't need a reason to use it, they just do. Unless they actively choose not to. Not everyone is going to do that. So if bnet becomes more attractive than ICCup the average joe AND the active choosers would use the same gateway.

We couldn't get a 5 man game of RoE going, even though we waited almost 30 minutes, last time I tried. So player base still is a concern.




Mar 18 2017, 10:47 pm Dem0n Post #7

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Quote from NudeRaider
We couldn't get a 5 man game of RoE going, even though we waited almost 30 minutes, last time I tried. So player base still is a concern.
That's because that game isn't fun. If you host fun games, people will join very quickly.




Mar 18 2017, 10:48 pm Lanthanide Post #8



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Mar 18 2017, 11:34 pm ClansAreForGays Post #9



Quote from NudeRaider
Bnet is the default option. People don't need a reason to use it, they just do. Unless they actively choose not to. Not everyone is going to do that. So if bnet becomes more attractive than ICCup the average joe AND the active choosers would use the same gateway.

We couldn't get a 5 man game of RoE going, even though we waited almost 30 minutes, last time I tried. So player base still is a concern.
Yup, this. No rebuttal to it.
I'm surprised you think iccup is good enough just the way it is. Were you not around during the golden days demon?




Mar 19 2017, 1:36 am Dem0n Post #10

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So what if I was? Do you think a remastered edition of Starcraft is going to reel in 100k players that quit years ago? Do you really expect battle.net to be flowing with dozens of games and people joining left and right? I highly doubt it. And even if a bunch of people buy the game and play on battle.net, they're probably all going to be coming from SC2, so they won't know how to play, and it won't be enjoyable. I'd rather have less people that (mostly) know what they're doing than a bunch of noobs that have never played BW before. I'm not really sure what you're expecting from a reboot.

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Mar 19 2017, 1:46 am NudeRaider Post #11

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

What a wonderful and open minded opinion. :rolleyes:

Ya, fuck the noobs, why do they even bother joining bnet when they weren't already born with a masters degree in sc1, like Demon. EVERYONE knows that's the requirement to have decent fun!


EDIT:
Alright, for the sake of the discussion: Everyone was a noob once. Sc can only benefit from an modernized engine and influx of new players. Sc veterancy isn't magic. The new players will learn eventually.

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Mar 19 2017, 2:04 am LoveLess Post #12

Let me show you how to hump without making love.

ICCup is not the optimal solution because it is a third party tool.

If they were to disable outside gateways along with the launch, include new antihacks/antibots, and announce it like it's a big thing... SC would get to live again for a while. Also, if you think there are a lot of people on ICCup, you're nuts.



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Mar 19 2017, 2:10 am Pr0nogo Post #13



I think SC2's arcade destroyed a lot of what would laterally be the UMS community if transferred to BW. Co-op is pretty popular but those players probably wouldn't find anything they like in BW UMS. I doubt a lot of the new players people are theorizing to exist would come from SC2.

I still think it would be nice to get a slightly better engine for the game, but that all depends on how much more difficult it becomes to map and mod.




Mar 19 2017, 4:44 am Oh_Man Post #14

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They should make it free to play or something, and fix up the default bnet, that would breathe a lot of life back into the game. Otherwise I have to question just who are they making this remake for?




Mar 19 2017, 8:11 am Lanthanide Post #15



Maybe it will be freemium, somehow?

What's really odd to me, is that Diablo 2 is still quite popular but they haven't bothered to release the uncompressed textures for it. When they originally released it they compressed all of the textures quite a lot so they could fit on 2 CDs at the time - the early Act 1 wilderness textures in particular are quite muddy/blurry, and Act 3 generally doesn't look very crisp. Since everything is digitally distributed now (and for physical they can use cheap-as-chips DVDs) they could easily re-release a 'high def' version of D2 with the uncompressed graphics. They could charge $5-10 for it and they'd make a lot of money for very little effort and support.

I got this from talking to the lead programmer on D2:LOD in the dii.net chatrooms over the course of several months in the lead up to the 1.10 patch for LoD. There's an Act 5 mercenary called Lanth in my honour (I contributed a fair few ideas for the v1.10 patch, including a lot of the rebalancing of uniques that was done in that patch). Pity it wasn't Act 2 merc, the ones that people actually use :/

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Mar 19 2017, 8:43 am Oh_Man Post #16

Find Me On Discord (Brood War UMS Community & Staredit Network)

That is pretty cool




Mar 20 2017, 1:02 am DarkenedFantasies Post #17

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Mar 20 2017, 1:30 am Excalibur Post #18

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Quote from Dem0n
Quote from NudeRaider
We couldn't get a 5 man game of RoE going, even though we waited almost 30 minutes, last time I tried. So player base still is a concern.
That's because that game isn't fun. If you host fun games, people will join very quickly.
This is merely preference. Weather its my map or not, one of the worst things both SC and WC3 went through were periods of certain maps dominating the game list. Its all fine and well for certain maps to be popular (DS, TS, SF, DOTA, ect) but there should always be choice. And due to the poor netcode needing port forwarding done just to host this does not allow a fair landscape where fun maps get played and not fun maps do not. Even if enough people are hosting enough choices you run into the refresh issue of which lobby appears first in the game list.

Its not a cut and dry issue is my point, and dismissing any map that any real amount of work has gone into as 'not fun' and thus not deserving to be played is asinine.




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Mar 20 2017, 1:44 am Zoan Post #19

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Mar 26 2017, 9:06 am Heinermann Post #20

SDE, BWAPI owner, hacker.

In case you guys missed it: https://starcraft.com/en-gb/

Highlights:
- 4k resolution support (including widescreen)
- Zoom in/out (better than resolution hack)
- UMS briefings screen completely redone (note that the wording indicates that they may have added additional text formatting or some other briefing feature)
- Remastered/New graphics and audio replacements
- Connect to Battle.net 2.0, including friends, matchmaking, etc.
- Will cost additional $$$ (from an interview)

What this means for UMS maps:
- Your buffer overflow maps (i.e. EUD, etc) are mostly dead (some cases where accessing data within a fixed size data structure is not expected to change)
- Your text overlaps are probably dead (character width changed, field length probably changed)
- Any maps that utilize the fixed screen size may be jeopardized
- Game tiles are updated, so your map tile blends and custom doodads may no longer match properly

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