Post has been edited 20 time(s), last time on Nov 27 2016, 8:52 am by MetalGear.

Obviously I have no clue how this map plays, but in my experience, using a Dragoon as a hero in AoS maps is a terrible idea. Dragoons are clunky and have terrible damage, and there's nothing really "fun" that you can do with them. Also having a spell create hallucinations is kind of a slap in the face because it's completely useless. Any competent player will quickly be able to figure out which unit is the real one.

I think it's work-able if they're a siege unit. Give 'em a really high damage output that makes them 'alright' against the other light units and makes them really strong against structures. Then again that makes them extra strong against bigger units too, which would probably be unintended.

That's assuming it's hallucinations and not, say, non-hero variants that deal a portion of the hero's damage. Though the wording being consistent with the Demon Witch's does make it sound more likely that they're hallucinations.

Yeah I agree, the damage isn't great, especially against melee creeps. However, I've given the hero more attack damage than the other heroes, as well as an array of fun abilities with cool visual effects. (Note: I changed one of the spells for this hero recently.)


The spell that creates 'replicates' actually creates real units (the non-hero version) that deal a lesser portion of the hero's damage. So that's kind of useful despite being able to tell the genuine unit.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Oct 28 2016, 8:53 am by MetalGear.

Holy shit. A new MetalGear map in 2016? Welcome back!

Thanks. I'm only a couple of weeks away from map completion, perhaps less. I'll PM you for testing

Come donuts on iccup if you need testers

I had a chance to play this map today and I gotta say its a lot of fun. Very straightforward and most of the gameplay elements make sense. A lot of things could be improved in my own opinion tho. For example the runes seem kind of redundant because its only 100 exp and 100 gold which later on is super easy to get without the runes. Also a lot of the shop items seem super cheap for the bonus they give you. I think you should have to work a bit more for the shop items. I also honestly think the game would be a lot more dynamic/fun/interesting if it were 3v3. Altho I see with the jungle creatures it'd be hard to have a workaround. One solution would be to replace the white players creatures on the left side of the map with the first teams computer, and the right with the second teams computer etc.

Another thing that might be interesting to see, and I know I mentioned this in-game, is making everything closer together. It feels like theres a lot of walking in the map. It wasn't necessarily badly paced, I just like action more so its closer to my own personal opinion than anything else.

The sides of the map don't seem super worth fighting for, like I feel like there should be some great push for the sides of the maps that can quickly change the balance of the game.

All of these are mostly suggestions and I know you're refining the map probably as I type this. I enjoyed playing the map a lot. There were no goofy redundant things which I see in a lot of maps. Nice job Metal Gear, I look forward to seeing more of this.

Thanks for your feedback. I've improved the runes to give 150 gold and 150 XP (half a level requirement).

I agree, the game would be more fun if it was 3v3 and possibly extra lanes. I'll consider this for a future version, I'll just see how the map goes first.

As for the terrain, yea that's always been my weakness. I could revamp the terrain but it probably won't be much better.

Anyways, I submitted the map now, version 1.6, it's pretty much glitch free and ready to go. Enjoy.