Against
poison_us:
Recording-related: he also made a post with the word "recording" in the same thread as Kame, though after her.
Against
dem0n,
generalpie, and
inferno:
They all have a Code Bar avatar, and Devlin started refering to his code bar's number right after the Day 0 post.
dem0n's: 43405 7169 786
General's: 080905 3490
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And now, numbers-related:
Day 0: 112612
Declassified 0: 112612 (+0, relative to last one)
Day 1: 112912 (+300)
Night 1: 112812 (-100)
Declassified 1: 112812 (+0)
Night 2: 120112 (+7300)
Declassified 2: 113012 (-7100)
300-100+7300-7100 =
400. No idea what to get from that.
"12" and "11" seem to be repeated quite often.
Kame's ID is
1188 (very poor, I know).
[TC 05:27:06;18]
[TC 05:29:14;02]
[TC 05:29:35;23]
[TC 05:30:57;11]
[TC 05:31:10;21]
[TC 05:32:00;28]
[TC 05:31:10;21]
See how two of them repeat themselves? Could be interpreted as going back in time. Or try to do the relative math as I did for the header-numbers (sorry, too lazy).
The only other idea I get related to those "TC" numbers is that they might refer to some verses or whatever from the bible or something.
I really just don't feel like doing crazy random maths. I compiled numbers, you guys have fun with them.
I'd suggest looking at Post Count in this thread, at participants' SEN member ID, and at their number of posts or any other SEN stat linked to their profile.
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EDIT:
Against generalpie:
His Code Bar code: 080905 3490
Now let's take a look at the 3 first recording time numbers:
[TC 05:27:06;18]
[TC 05:29:14;02]
[TC 05:29:35;23]
Probably too weak again anyways, though.
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I vote to lynch Fire_Kame.
Post has been edited 5 time(s), last time on Dec 2 2012, 6:20 am by payne.
None.
<Voting Update>
Dem0n:
OlimarandLouie: Abstain
payne: Fire_Kame (1)
Stacy Keibler:
Zycorax:
poison_us: Aristocrat
Aristocrat:
TiKels:
rayNimagi:
GeneralPie:
NudeRaider: Aristocrat (2)
Observer12425:
Roy: TiKels (1)
Fire_Kame:
BiOAtK:
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 2 2012, 6:53 am by DevliN.
Currently Working On: My Overwatch addiction.
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Also, Roy, poison_us seemed to imply that clues taken from stuff posted before the activity check went out are irrelevant. Who is right? It seems like clues would be too hard to get, and too obvious if they were only originating from after the activity check.
Uh, we are? We're both saying that anything on or before the intro post does not contain clues. This isn't to be confused with saying clues cannot be based on things from the past, which is obviously not true (and not what either of us is saying).
The bar code numbers are derived from the member's join date and member ID in the format YYMMDD ####. For more information, see Kame's topic:
http://www.staredit.net/topic/15564/Good catch on the time repeat. Based on where it repeated, it looks more deliberate than an error. I don't think it has to do with time travel, though, because it's the same time that is repeated. Time difference of 50;07 between the repeated times.
The reason Inferno died was because he failed to claim his absurdly powerful role when we asked him to, intentionally depriving the town of useful information. With claims from many other people and a refusal to cooperate from Inferno, he was a logical next target. This is what you get for not cooperating with the town; if you have a power role but have not yet claimed to Roy or me, claim now, or you risk ending up like Inferno when the town reaches the process of elimination stage.
Wait, so you're telling me that you killed someone because he didn't tell you his role? Wanting to kill townies that don't claim doesn't seem like a very good thing to do. Since there is no reveal upon death, we can never verify claims.
I suspect Aristocrat might be Mafia. Without reveal, it's easy for a Cylon to claim to be a Vigilante and claim to always use Paranoia. This would make him "invincible" for the rest of the game, as the real Vigilante would be too afraid to target him.
I vote
Aristocrat.Do not send your role to Aristocrat or Demon.
Win by luck, lose by skill.
So I can self preserve I'm going to vote aristocrat.
Also to further my own personal goals.
"If a topic that clearly interest noone needs to be closed to underline the "we don't want this here" message, is up to debate."
-NudeRaider
<Voting Update>
Dem0n: TiKels
OlimarandLouie: Abstain
payne: Fire_Kame (1)
Stacy Keibler:
Zycorax:
poison_us: Aristocrat
Aristocrat:
TiKels: Aristocrat
rayNimagi: Aristocrat
GeneralPie:
NudeRaider: Aristocrat (4)
Observer12425:
Roy: TiKels (2)
Fire_Kame:
BiOAtK:
Currently Working On: My Overwatch addiction.
My clues against Kame aren't strong enough? :x
None.
My clues against Kame aren't strong enough? :x
All in due time, payne.
I can tell both of that I'm a crewman.
@Poison I can see why that's confusing (especially sine I didn't vote this round) but I would like to ensure to you that this isn't a flip in behavior. Each game dictates it gets played differently. Aristocrat might annoy me sometimes in the sbox, but I don't let my feelings from outside the game determine how I feel about them during the game (unlike some of the other contestants here).
And sorry to the town I didn't vote. I doubt Vrael was tested, or if he was I doubt the results were true. It could be that the mafia hit lil first to change his results and before lil could find out they killed him. Frankly on Friday night I caused a bit of trouble at work, and last night was the company party so I was a little strung out until we got there. The last thing on my mind was voting, lol.
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I can tell both of that I'm a crewman.
Hmm, interesting.
I doubt Vrael was tested, or if he was I doubt the results were true. It could be that the mafia hit lil first to change his results and before lil could find out they killed him.
This makes no sense to me, unless you believe Demon isn't the Vigilante. Targeting the Scientist doesn't change his night results; the Mole would have to know the Scientist's target, and it seems as though Inferno only trusted Demon with that information.
Eh, crewmember* whatever.
Semantics.
And I am still very skeptical about Demon. I probably will be until the end of the game.
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Let's look at the facts here:
- Demon and Aristocrat claimed Vigilante. The chances of at least one of them being honest is pretty high.
- On the previous night, is was apparent that a Vigilante used Paranoia (based on the writing). Demon claimed he would use Paranoia.
- On the previous night, Aristocrat admitted to targeting Inferno.
So, from this we can either assert:
1) Nobody used Paranoia, and the night post actually intended to be about someone else (who?)
2) Demon used Paranoia like he said he would.
3) Someone unknown used Paranoia, which is a bad idea to do anonymously because you're very likely to hurt your own team.
You're skeptical about both Demon and Stacy Keibler, which are our best leads for a town hub. It almost sounds like you're trying to prevent us from getting a hub, regardless of the evidence that comes forward.
I have no intention of hindering demon in further. Clearly either the town believes he is correct or else he is legit. Eitherway its an uphill battle I won't be able to win on my own. Even when the town hub is elected they are usually very good about posting their defense for why they think whoever is mafia. So I assume that I'll be easy to persuade if the town hub has a good argument.
My skepticism stands on:
-In past games, Demon gets hyper aggressive when he's put up for lynch and he didn't do that this time. Even when he held substantial powers that would have helped the town.
-Demon saying lil tested Stacey was very conveniently timed. I could see lil, having been killed, posting that he's a scientist post mortem to troll the game that he's already been removed from.
-I haven't seen much action from Stacey.
-In past games the vig roles have been in the closet for a while before they come clean. We have some timid players and many afk/casual players; if they're not paying enough attention it'd be easy to miss it.
An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death
I agree with everything except the bit on Inferno. As I said earlier, Inferno claimed to be the Scientist to me before the end of N1, though he never told me his target nor his results. Also, based on the way his death was written, it's clear that he was the Scientist.
Now, only Demon knew Inferno's results from what I can tell (although I recently got information that may indicate otherwise), so we are taking his word on it, but the evidence that he is the Vigilante plus the risk he takes for lying about a result makes it unlikely that he did lie about it.
In past games the Vigilante didn't have the Paranoia ability, which is why they came forward early. When I was the Rogue Engineer, I came forward immediately after getting some form of protection.
Does demon have some form of protection?
