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Simple Mafia: Game Over

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Oct 29 2012, 5:29 am

Roy Post #181

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

Day 1 Vote Tally

Dem0n: Aristocrat
poison_us: Aristocrat
Fire_Kame: Aristocrat
Raccoon: Aristocrat (4)

rayNimagi: Fire_Kame
l)ark_ssj9kevin: Fire_Kame (2)

Aristocrat: Dem0n

Leading Candidate(s): Aristocrat

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 29 2012, 11:30 pm by Roy. Reason: Spacing

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Oct 29 2012, 5:32 am

Fire_Kame Post #182

wth is starcraft

Quote from

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Whoa Kame, way to backstab me. I should point out that this is the whole conversation:

[2012-10-27. : 3:16 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- no leads on that.
[2012-10-27. : 3:14 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Or figure out who the vig is and achieve it before then
[2012-10-27. : 3:11 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- on day 1 then?
[2012-10-27. : 3:11 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Help me achieve that goal :awesome:

[2012-10-27. : 3:11 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- This time, it's Dem0nS1ayer.
[2012-10-27. : 3:11 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- I win if the people I want dead die by the end of the game.
[2012-10-27. : 3:10 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- I think I have a very different sense of "winning" from everyone else who plays.
[2012-10-27. : 3:10 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- I have nothing to lose in trusting you. You kill me? Fine. You narrow down suspects? Also fine. I have nothing to lose here. It's a game to me still. I'm trying to figure out how everyone works, and the best way for me to do that is to throw myself into situations and hope I learn how to swim out of them. :kame:

[2012-10-27. : 3:09 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Coax a role PM out of somebody before trying to trust them, and compare the writing to Roy's. See if the style differs.
[2012-10-27. : 3:09 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- If I were mafia I would've known by now that you aren't a power role, narrowing down my list of priority targets.
[2012-10-27. : 3:08 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Who knows, maybe I'm a mafia member who forged a townsperson PM in these eventualities.
[2012-10-27. : 3:08 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Trust no one. Not even me.
[2012-10-27. : 3:07 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- "Nobody knows your background. They just assume on good faith that you're a townsperson." it wasn't a coverup. I'm trying to figure out why my role pm is so boring.
[2012-10-27. : 3:07 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Also, "townsperson" is colored green in the original role PM.
[2012-10-27. : 3:07 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Why'd you ask for a cover-up role PM if you're not mafia?
[2012-10-27. : 3:06 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- cool, I can get behind that. And I'm not mafia. Do you think I can trust lil?
[2012-10-27. : 3:05 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- And consider the debt paid.
[2012-10-27. : 3:05 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Get Dem0n killed.
[2012-10-27. : 3:05 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Do with it whatever you want.
[2012-10-27. : 3:04 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Oh, so you ARE mafia, lmao. "You are in crushing debt after dropping out of medical school. As it turns out, being a medical practitioner is a lot of work, and you don't like doing a lot of work. Instead, you got a cheap apartment right next to the grocery outlet, at which you work part-time doing janitorial service. Kate's Grocery. Who is Kate, anyway? You don't know, and you're too lazy to find out; it matters not to a townsperson. On weekends you like to hit up the pub with what little spending money you have; an empty stomach makes it easier to get inebriated, anyway. While you may not consider yourself to be a winner, you're happy enough to be alive."
[2012-10-27. : 3:04 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- interestingly, I don't have an agenda. I have the least interesting role distribution in the game I bet.
[2012-10-27. : 3:03 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- will you send me your role PM? I think I'm going to be the day one bandwagon target for lynch. Demon is going to hop on it just to kill me.
[2012-10-27. : 3:03 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- So I'll help you with whatever your agenda is
[2012-10-27. : 3:02 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- I don't even care if you're mafia, I just want Dem0n and a few certain other people dead :awesome:

[2012-10-27. : 3:02 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- The most important role in the game, handed out sparingly.
[2012-10-27. : 3:02 pm] Fire_Kame whispers to you -- it looks like we're already part of one. What's your role
[2012-10-27. : 3:01 pm] HCM�Aristocrat whispers to Fire_Kame -- Join my coalition

You threatened me by saying you'd post this, but I'm not incriminated. Moreover, it shows that even if you're townie you have a definite agenda. Couple that with your agenda to kill BiO and Lanth (as stated in the sbox) even if you're not mafia we're going to lose town members if you stay.

Oct 29 2012, 5:32 am

Vrael Post #183

I think there were only two mafia hits last night. Doctor probably stopped one and inferno was the 2nd.

None.

Oct 29 2012, 5:34 am

Fire_Kame Post #184

wth is starcraft

Quote from name:Stacy Keibler

I think there were only two mafia hits last night. Doctor probably stopped one and inferno was the 2nd.

Then Vigilante didn't get a kill? That was actually probably pretty smart; if they sat out they did it intentionally, I doubt they afked.

If Vigilante is out there, please PM me. If town still trusts me. :hurr:

I don't know if ratting out Aristocrat made me seem more or less trustworthy.

Oct 29 2012, 5:42 am

l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #185

Just here for the activity... well not really

A lot of stuff's happened in the shoutbox, I see. I'm switching to Aristo -- his role PM matches with the poor/college student clues too well. Forming ultimatums with other players is also anti-town.
Also Kame is Kame. Let's leave it at that.

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Oct 29 2012, 5:44 am

Dem0n Post #186

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I just remembered that lil gave me his PM. I just reread it, and hot damn, does it have some interesting stuff.

Quote

Time is money.

This has proven true over your lifetime, and it is quite literal in some instances: you have large investments in stocks that fluctuate with each passing second. Recently, though, the local economy has been in poor shape, due to what you suspect to be organized crime and the resulting rapid decline of customers. As CFO of the Kate's Grocery outlet, the largest store in the town, you are the most invested in figuring out if a person is an innocent townsperson or not. Every innocent life taken is another lost customer, after all.

Aristocrat works at Kate's. lil-Inferno was the CFO there. Aristocrat is poor. lil-Inferno was rich. He was jealous of lil's money, and that's why he killed him. Roy's story in the Night 1 post tells us so. Too easy of a clue, you say? I'd like to say no, it is not. These clues could only be found by cross-referencing two separate players' PMs. It's a shame that the Mafia player so graciously revealed his PM for the entire world to see.

The evidence is indisputable, Aristocrat. Give it up. You're dead.

Oct 29 2012, 5:50 am

Lanthanide Post #187

Quote from

Dem0n

These clues could only be found by cross-referencing two separate players' PMs.

Which is a terribly stupid thing to base a clue interpretation on.

With so little solid information at the moment, I'm abstaining.

None.

Oct 29 2012, 7:36 am

Lanthanide Post #188

After reviewing the available evidence and conversing with others, I trust that both Aristo and Kame are town and I vote for l)ark_ssj9kevin. I don't have a lot of evidence, but I do believe both Kame and Aristo are town and Kevin has voted for both of them, flip-flopping in the breeze as he saw the bandwagon building.

None.

Oct 29 2012, 1:31 pm

Generalpie Post #189

Staredit Puckwork

Well, if it helps, I'm living on military subsidies because I was in some sort of martial arts branch. I don't have a job yet, but it begs the question if someone needs a bodyguard.

None.

Oct 29 2012, 1:31 pm

Roy Post #190

An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death

Day 1 Vote Tally

Dem0n: Aristocrat
poison_us: Aristocrat
Fire_Kame: Aristocrat
Raccoon: Aristocrat
l)ark_ssj9kevin: Aristocrat (5)
rayNimagi: Fire_Kame
Aristocrat: Dem0n
Lanthanide: l)ark_ssj9kevin

Leading Candidate(s): Aristocrat

Oct 29 2012, 2:35 pm

Tempz Post #191

Abstain

Quote

But time is rather unimportant. To me, that is. Important to others, sure; I prefer the time that has already passed than the time that will be passing. So much to be learned, to be a learned person. That's the problem with people like you: you willingly sacrifice your opportunities to learn.

Could be Ray's Terminator Avatar

Quote

"Having no wealth of my own, I am a bit jealous of yours; that's not why you're here, though. Do I know you? No, not really. I'd like to get to know you. Right now, in fact. Let's start from the beginning. And don't worry, I already know how it ends."

Beginning could refer to time.
(Ray?)

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He was blindfolded with a portion of a window curtain

Possible Raccoon's Avatar (Clothe Over Eyes) although other avatars have eye pieces (e.g. Nuderaider and Ray) Although its a possible reference to l)ark_ssj9kevin having no avatar

Quote

"Target in sight."

Again with the reference to eyes (previous reference was blindfolding)

Quote

A cheap walkie-talkie dismantled into a headset;

Quote

more sophisticated headgear.

Quote

Nobody responded to their statement over the mic

Nuderaider's Avatar?

None.

Oct 29 2012, 3:03 pm

Fire_Kame Post #192

wth is starcraft

Relying on clues from someone's avatar would be incredibly risky as Roy said that people are allowed to change their avatars, titles and signatures during the game.

Oct 29 2012, 3:07 pm

Bar Refaeli Post #193

Quote from

Roy

Avatars and signatures are certainly not off limits, either, even though these can be easily changed

None.

Oct 29 2012, 3:51 pm

DevliN Post #194

OVERWATCH STATUS GO

I feel like clues that simple go against the whole concept of Roy's use of clues in this game.

I vote Aristocrat.

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Oct 29 2012, 4:33 pm

rayNimagi Post #195

Doesn't anyone think it's a bit too convenient that Demon just "happened" to have inferno's role PM?

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Oct 29 2012, 4:34 pm

Dem0n Post #196

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No, lil and I (as well as a few others) teamed up with each other at the start of the game, sharing our roles and PMs. We've done this in basically every game for the past few months.

You were quick to vote for Kame to even the votes against Aristocrat. Your evidence was the sarcastic, troll conversation that lil-Inferno had with her. You've been throwing around other insinuations as well. You better watch out, ray.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 29 2012, 4:40 pm by Dem0n.

Oct 29 2012, 4:41 pm

poison_us Post #197

Back* from the grave

I'm going against my previous vote. I feel like Demon is letting his personal feelings for Inferno get in the way of his judgement. While he withheld information during the first night for his own gain, I feel he should have posted it if it would have prevented a mafia kill. If his information was right, it would have done more good posting it as quickly as possible, and it would have allowed the vigilante to have a suspected target. Of course, assuming the vig isn't inactive like one or two of the Mafia seem to be.

Quote from

poison_us

That's funny, I got a whisper from Aris stating he knew Inferno was town.

Here's the entire conversation (~~will edit this post with the~~ link to the saved shouts):

[2012-10-27. : 6:35 pm] HCM?Aristocrat whispers to poison_us -- I'm betting this on the fact that you aren't mafia (on the basis you did, in fact, call me a dumbass), which is why I'm explaining my line of thought
[2012-10-27. : 6:34 pm] HCM?Aristocrat whispers to poison_us -- People who stay silent and watch are probably mafia, because they want the town to self-destruct
[2012-10-27. : 6:34 pm] HCM?Aristocrat whispers to poison_us -- Starting shit against townies makes it less likely for the mafia to actually hit me, and it's likely that anyone who calls bullshit on my bandwagons is a town
[2012-10-27. : 6:33 pm] HCM?Aristocrat whispers to poison_us -- If I were actually trying to get him killed, I wouldn't be saying anything. I'd either fish for the vig silently and tell him to target inferno, or start a bandwagon with "clue interpretations" during the day
[2012-10-27. : 6:32 pm] poison_us whispers to you -- then why are you trying so hard to get him killed? This makes no sense.
[2012-10-27. : 6:31 pm] HCM?Aristocrat whispers to poison_us -- That's because I don't, since unfortunately he's actually townie
[2012-10-27. : 6:31 pm] poison_us -- You also propose to lynch solely on the basis of someone being annoying. You don't even pretend that you think they're mafia.
[2012-10-27. : 6:30 pm] poison_us -- Aggression is not always your friend, friend.
[2012-10-27. : 6:29 pm] poison_us -- You want to lynch anyone speaking out against you, and you pretend you're some instant guarantee that the town will win.

While this isn't enough to exonerate Aristocrat by any means, it's enough for me to at least switch sides, being not terribly confident with my vote to begin with. I didn't ever like how Aristocrat publicly pushed for Inferno's lynch (I mentioned his "kerfuggly actions" before this bandwagon even really got that started), and Demon seems too sure he's mafia. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. Likewise for anyone that defends him in the slightest. And, as I've claimed many times before, I is Mafia, so I must defend Aristocrat, by Demon's logic.

I vote Demon for Mayor.

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EDIT: Saving this, because it's scummy as shit. Solidifies my vote for Demon. (You = RayNimagi)

Quote from

Dem0n

You were quick to vote for Kame to even the votes against Aristocrat. Your evidence was the sarcastic, troll conversation that lil-Inferno had with her. You've been throwing around other insinuations as well. You better watch out, ray.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 29 2012, 4:53 pm by poison_us. Reason: EDIT2: Added URL for shouts

Oct 29 2012, 4:48 pm

Dem0n Post #198

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You can vote for me, but all you're accomplishing is Aristocrat's goal to remove everyone that's on his hitlist from the game. I can tell you that I'm townie, as I almost always am in mafia. I'm not 100% sure that Aristocrat is Mafia, but the evidence is too good to just be a coincidence, and I highly doubt Roy would include red herrings (although that'd be lulzy as shit).

The only reason I'm accusing people who defend Aristocrat is because they provide no logical argument for his innocence and are just voting for other random people without any proof of anything.

If you defend Aristocrat, you're likely Mafia. If you're a townie, then you're just stupid. If Aristocrat is a townie, I'm sure the Mafia would love for him to stay alive so that he could get other townies killed in his murderous quest for self-righteousness. That's what I'd do, at least. Like I said before, his townie to mafia kill ratio is like 3:1.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that I = Ray. Are you saying I'm throwing around random accusations without any proof? Because unless you're blind, you can clearly see my overwhelming evidence against Aristocrat. Do you expect me to be kind to people who defend a murderer? They're good as dead to me. The safety of the town is all I care about.

You're smarter than this, poison. Don't became a sheep to Aristoserialkiller like so many others have before.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Oct 29 2012, 4:54 pm by Dem0n.

Oct 29 2012, 5:02 pm

poison_us Post #199

Back* from the grave

Look, Demon, I think it's great you finally have something to have a backbone for. But throwing around threats in a Mafia game is something you do not do idly. That means either you're willing to have a vig hit someone who you simply disagree with, or you're a mafia.

And knock it off with the Aristo[whatever] names. It's not cute, it's not funny, it only makes you seem more emotionally involved in a game that necessitates logic. Speaking of which, how does it feel being Azrael's puppet?

Oct 29 2012, 5:06 pm

Fire_Kame Post #200

wth is starcraft

Quote from

rayNimagi

Doesn't anyone think it's a bit too convenient that Demon just "happened" to have inferno's role PM?

I can verify the two were working together before the hit happened - lil told me over skype. That doesn't speak to demon's innocence, but it certainly speaks that they knew each other. Moreover, lil's role wasn't specifically important, so he'd make a very strange first night target if the member of mafia knew their role. It casts serious doubts on demon being mafia - or at the very least, at him being an intelligent member of mafia. :bleh:

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