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Ex's Mafia #1: Staredit Mafia
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Jan 13 2012, 11:13 pm Tempz Post #141



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Dem0nS1ayer lay face down in the gutter. A note, in the same cryptic script as the last one was left. 'By steam and iron I am resurrected, renewed, and revived. I no longer toil in games and theory. The time for action is at hand.'
Possibly Ray as his avatar resembles the terminator... Or perhaps Devlin
... Face down is possibly a clue but I'm not sure what it means.
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Strangely two figures talked alone on the side, one had a chest adorned with medals, and was responded to with 'Sir' by the other. In the groups, some had felt they were being watched or followed.

Mp)Hellfire's avatar has 2 people but unlike olimarandlouie's one person has a necklace on his chest.

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The message from this corpse was clear: Find The Watched and destroy them, before everyone ended up face down.
Another reference to face down...

Post has been edited 4 time(s), last time on Jan 13 2012, 11:36 pm by Tempz.



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Jan 13 2012, 11:17 pm Lanthanide Post #142



So we lost a moderator. Nuts. Or, more likely, he was recoloured by The Unwatched.

I vote to lynch Jack.



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Jan 13 2012, 11:27 pm Tempz Post #143



Not so fast there lanth... i finally realized what faced down could mean... your kiwi is looking downwards... other avatars are too but none more pronounced than you. So i don't believe what your selling.

Edit : please post your clue analysis so i might be inclined to vote for jack and maybe trust you a little more.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jan 13 2012, 11:36 pm by Tempz.



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Jan 14 2012, 12:04 am The_UrChai Post #144



Quote from Excalibur
The members stood in huddles of five or six, trying to gather information on who say what last night
Spelling mistake. That's my analysis.

This whole "member stalking another one but failing" seems to be a common theme. Probably has no clues in that part of the post

Quote from Excalibur
'By steam and iron I am resurrected, renewed, and revived. I no longer toil in games and theory. The time for action is at hand.'

The members stood in huddles of five or six, trying to gather information on who say what last night. Strangely two figures talked alone on the side, one had a chest adorned with medals, and was responded to with 'Sir' by the other.

face down.

After cutting out what I think has no clues I think these two bites might have something.

I Abstain

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 14 2012, 2:34 am by shadow649.



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Jan 14 2012, 2:36 am Jack Post #145

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

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'By steam and iron I am resurrected, renewed, and revived. I no longer toil in games and theory. The time for action is at hand.'
steam and iron makes me think of steamboy vs moose; moose isn't playing though. Games and theory = two of the forums, SC1/2 theory, and Games. Zycorax is a mod of Games, so he toils there. I don't recall if he was ever a mod of any of the Theory forums though. However, that's not convincing enough for me yet.

I VOTE RACCOON


[Recorded for posteriety: Lanthanide, Raccoon, and Tempz visited Zycorax's profile recently, before me and after moose.]



Red classic.

"In short, their absurdities are so extreme that it is painful even to quote them."

Jan 14 2012, 2:42 am lil-Inferno Post #146

Just here for the pie

I vote Raccoon.




Jan 14 2012, 2:43 am Mp)HellFire Post #147



I vote Raccoon
so far every role that has died is not aligned with town.
1 devilisk and 1 unwatched



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Jan 14 2012, 2:49 am Excalibur Post #148

The sword and the faith

Current Lynch Votes:
Lanthanide -> Jack
shadow649 -> Abstain
Jack -> Raccoon
lil-inferno -> Raccoon (2)
Mp)Hellfire -> Raccoon (3)

Currently slated for lynching: Raccoon.




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Jan 14 2012, 2:53 am Jack Post #149

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

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so far every role that has died is not aligned with town. 1 devilisk and 1 unwatched
Devilisk can't be dead, he can only die from a lynch and we haven't had a successful lynch yet. And what makes you think the other dead person is an unwatched?

I CHANGE MY VOTE TO MP)HELLFIRE



Red classic.

"In short, their absurdities are so extreme that it is painful even to quote them."

Jan 14 2012, 2:57 am Azrael Post #150



Simply going by behavior, I vote for Raccoon.




Jan 14 2012, 3:01 am Raitaki Post #151



Hmmm either some behind the scene stuff is going on without me knowing, or Hellfire somehow survives the weak-players-that-need-be-lynched-first list ;\ Anyway, might as well follow the crowd. I vote Raccoon.



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Jan 14 2012, 3:02 am Lanthanide Post #152



Quote from Jack
[Recorded for posteriety: Lanthanide, Raccoon, and Tempz visited Zycorax's profile recently, before me and after moose.]
For the record, I visited the profiles of every player in the game, to see which players profile Ex had visited, in hopes that his visitations might suggest which members were mafia and which weren't. IIRC ex visited about 14-15 profiles so too many to line up nicely with the mafia.



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Jan 14 2012, 3:06 am The_UrChai Post #153



Following the popular opinion and my growing suspicion of Raccoon, I vote Raccoon



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Jan 14 2012, 3:16 am Excalibur Post #154

The sword and the faith

Current Lynch Votes:
Lanthanide -> Jack
Jack -> Raccoon -> Mp)Hellfire
lil-inferno -> Raccoon
Mp)Hellfire -> Raccoon (2)
Azrael.Wrath -> Raccoon (3)
Raitaki -> Raccoon (4)
shadow649 -> Abstain -> Raccoon (5)

Currently slated for lynching: Raccoon




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Jan 14 2012, 3:17 am Riney Post #155

Thigh high affectionado

I vote Raccoon.



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Jan 14 2012, 3:51 am Daddywhoo Post #156



Abstain
Edit: As a sidenote, is it possible to view a person's number of posts in a certain forum?



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Jan 14 2012, 4:03 am Raitaki Post #157



Quote from Daddywhoo
Abstain
Edit: As a sidenote, is it possible to view a person's number of posts in a certain forum?
Yep. Go to their profile, view Forum tab.



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Jan 14 2012, 4:39 am rayNimagi Post #158



I don't think Ex would write clues based on the last five members to visit someone's profile. Those lists get overwritten too easily. Ex would have to rewrite posts if someone visited while he was writing.

Knowing Raccoon, he would probably troll as town. The Devilesk is probably someone who isn't active, he and the mafia are keeping their heads down. It's so easy to hide underneath the screen of inactivity. In previous games, people who are active are scrutinized, and active mafia are quickly found based on behavioral clues. It's much easier to hide your facial expressions when you never show up to town meetings.

I say we should start lynching the people who do not vote or post in this thread. Those would be good choices to target with restraining powers as well.

I vote abstain.I'm probably going to be accused of being mafia for defending raccoon



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Jan 14 2012, 4:47 am Daddywhoo Post #159



Quote from Raitaki
Quote from Daddywhoo
Abstain
Edit: As a sidenote, is it possible to view a person's number of posts in a certain forum?
Yep. Go to their profile, view Forum tab.
Thanks, I literally found it a minute before you posted this.
Anyways, considering this:
Quote from Excalibur
'By steam and iron I am resurrected, renewed, and revived. I no longer toil in games and theory. The time for action is at hand.'
I figured games and theory was referring to the forums of Games and SC1/SC2 UMS Theory and Ideas so this is a list of people who have posted in both those forums:

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This is hardly meaningful as all it means is that they have at some point in their lives they have posted in these forums, so now I narrow it down to people who have relatively high activity in both forums; the criteria I'm going to use for relatively high activity is either both Games and either SC1/SC2Theory being in their top 10 most posted in forums or having over 50 posts in both forums. This narrowed it down to
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Now Leon-037 has 1 post in each of those forums so I think it's safe to say he doesn't exactly "toil" in those forums. So I'm going to remove from that list so its just going to be
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Now among those, I'm applying
Quote from Excalibur
'By steam and iron I am resurrected, renewed, and revived...
although mainly just the "By steam and iron I am resurrected" bit.
Going through the avatars/quotes none of them jump out to me as being overly mechanical/steam and iron related except for Devlin's, who's quote is about SW:TOR and has an avatar to match. This could be a reference to Darth Vader who was revived through a mechanical suit (and lots of steamy sounding sound effects when he breathes).
rayNimagi and TiKels' avatar's I don't really know much about so someone else with knowledge about their avatars might be able to do some analysis as well.
xAngelSpiritx has an observer. which could be seen as mechanical and therefore related to steam and iron.

Edit:
TL;DR:
  • Devlin most suspicious
  • xAngelSpiritx kinda, not really suspicious
  • TiKels and rayNimagi might be suspicious, I don't know anything about their avatars

Edit2: Also, I'd like to say that this means almost nothing on it's own, but if someone is both acting suspiciously and on the last list then it might be worth considering them suspicious.
Plus, it could just be a planted clue from The Watched, as the Devlin connection was a little too obvious for my liking
Also, by suspicious i just mean that the given clues point most towards them.

Update:
Quote from rayNimagi
My avatar is real-life face photoshopped onto The Terminator.
Terminator kinda correlates the whole resurrected by steam and iron thing.
Edited for clarity

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jan 14 2012, 4:59 am by Daddywhoo.



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Jan 14 2012, 4:48 am Azrael Post #160



Quote from rayNimagi
I'm probably going to be accused of being mafia for defending raccoon

Probably, you certainly wrote a lot trying to redirect the blame elsewhere. Your additional suggestion of ignoring all behavioral analysis and not killing anyone who's actively posting also seems like it's intended to undermine the Town.

Considering Ex's comments about inactivity, we can assume it isn't due to strategic merit that people aren't posting. If there are any Mafia among the list of inactives, it's entirely possible they aren't sending in night actions either. It's also impossible to differentiate between legit inactives and Mafia ones, so we'd simply be rolling the dice until we killed them all, while the active ones continue killing us off.

My suggestion is the opposite of yours, to instead focus on the behavior of active players and start killing the most suspicious ones.

First one being Raccoon.




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