Men marry women hoping they won't change; women marry men hoping they will.

So if you're a girl and you pretty much look and act the same for a couple of years, you got him. Men, if you're charming but kind of fucked up (in a way that suggests you have potential), you've got her.

Sacrieur is right.

You don't have to move into someone's house to find out from their family how they live. Also, people generally have sex when living together (boyfriend and girlfriend that is). Maybe you wouldn't but people would assume you do, and as a christian you are to avoid the appearance of evil. In addition, when you leave your mother and father it should generally be to get married.

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Jack, so I guess you will instantly marry someone when you move to another city for university/job/etc?

@Kame:
First, move together and see how it works out when you see each other the whole day. If you don't start hating each other all the time for a year and living together works, it might be "the one". So, it's what Sacrieur said.

If you aren't religious or your boyfriend (religious = it has a real influence in your live and thinking [so you vote which president uses the word "god" the most]), ignore the religious advices. Maybe replace it with tradition, but in the end, everything is your decision and you carry any consequences appearing.

You can still marry, if kids are comming. That's pretty much happens here now where I'm living and is a symbol of love and the wish to stay together forever.
I'm sorry that I'm not sure what consequences you imply when using the term "the one". So marriage, moving together...

Doesn't work that way. It's something you have to experience firsthand to know if you can deal with it. Many people live differently on their own or with a significant other than they did when they lived with their immediate family anyways.

Whoever suggested they live together obviously has real-life experience.


Where in the Bible does it say "Thou shalt not do anything that might make some random people question your faith based on immoral assumptions, even though it is none of their business, and even if you're actually following His teachings to the letter?"

Those random people are the ones with questionable faith, knowing that they themselves couldn't resist temptation, so they assume no one else could either. They are the ones taking the first opportunity to condemn other people.

"Whoever slanders his neighbor in secret, him will I put to silence; whoever has haughty eyes and a proud heart, him will I not endure." (Psalm 101:5)

Something that you should seriously consider.


False. That's not what's meant by honoring your parents, nor is it the meaning of Genesis 2:24. If you never get married, you're going to live with your parents forever, just based on misunderstandings you have about your own religion? That's kind of sad.

To summarize these points, I think the apostles said it best: "We must obey God rather than men!"

You should start worrying more about following the religion yourself, rather than manipulating its teachings for your own selfish purposes.

I think it should be important to state explicitly (for jack) that people live together and not have sex all the time.

The former, but I also tend to date friends, so I've known them for a while before starting a relationship.


I lol'd at whoever reported Alhi's post - you so mad.

@Jack: Not everyone shares your beliefs. Deal with it.


And to answer your question Kame, I'm gonna go with about a year.

Im going to go with forever. Seems legit.

Still sticking with my previous post though:



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One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not.

Is this so you can justify living with your parents until 30+?

But as Sac said, there is no 'the one', only variations of good and bad matches.

Words of wisdom.

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Men marry women hoping they won't change; women marry men hoping they will.

So if you're a girl and you pretty much look and act the same for a couple of years, you got him. Men, if you're charming but kind of fucked up (in a way that suggests you have potential), you've got her.

Words of wisdom.

I think all the men that visit this site have the "kind of fucked up" thing down. I mean, this is SEN.

No, that's why I said GENERALLY. Ideally I won't have to move to another city or country but if that happens then fine, I'll move. Without getting married straight away.


Wait wait wait so you guys require living with someone before marriage just so you can find out they pick their nose or fart while sleeping? And that would be a dealbreaker????

1 Thessalonians 5:22
Depending on translation, "Abstain from all appearance of evil." or "abstain from all forms of evil." Now, this isn't what random atheists think is evil; they'd say that preaching against sin is a bad thing to do. But if a Christian looks at what you're doing and looks at the Bible and thinks "that guy is most likely having sex before marriage" then you have the appearance or form of evil, even if you aren't committing the act yourself. In addition, Romans 14:21 "It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall."
In other words, if you're doing something such as living with your girlfriend before marriage, you are suggesting that it's ok to have sex before marriage; you're being a stumbling block. Better to avoid that entirely.

A) what are Christians doing intentionally placing themselves in temptation? Sounds like they're trying to make things hard for themselves. B) random people who think that there's a high chance that a man and woman living together are having sex don't have questionable faith, they have working brains. Maybe not every man and woman living together before marriage are having sex but I betcha most of them are.
I wouldn't slander MA if he was living with his gf, I'd go to him and say bro, you shouldn't be doing that, here's why. And if he's a faithful humble Bible believing Christian then he'd probably go "oh ok, I'll tell me gf and we'll talk it over, I'll get some advice from my pastor then we'll get married or stop living together."

" nor is it the meaning of Genesis 2:24." What is the meaning then? Seems pretty clear to me. If you leave your parents and go have sex with someone, it should be for the purpose of marriage. If you leave your parents for some other reason (job, university) then fine.

I'm telling MA that he should obey God. I'm not out for my own selfish purposes, but am rather trying to help MA. I'm not trying to manipulate anything; the Bible's mostly pretty easy to understand.

@tikels, yeah, ok, but not many people do.

@oh_man, no, if you leave your parents for something other than "being joined to a woman" then you don't need to get married. There are plenty of examples of this in the Bible (e.g. David).

   

That the bond of marriage is a union even stronger than that between a parent and child.


No, you're telling him to obey you and your skewed interpretation of what is immoral. Nowhere does the Bible so much as imply that the act of living in the same residence as someone not related to you is indecent.

I haven't read any of the other replies here.

But it entirely depends on the other person and the circumstances in which you originally meet them. If they're private and keep to themselves and don't express their emotions much, then it's going to take longer.

Also, it's not uncommon for long marriages, 15+ years, to eventually break down and end in divorce. So up until year 20 you might have thought you had found "the one", but then your life circumstances change and the relationship ends.

I've never heard that meaning before, and it doesn't follow the grammar of the verse properly.

I've given MA some relevant verses, but he doesn't need my interpretation of them to do what's right. I daresay he'll also seek the advice of his parents and elders to make sure he's not misinterpreting things either. And the Bible does say that having sex with someone you aren't married to is sinful. And generally that's what goes on when a boyfriend ans girlfriend live together.

You can end that thought right there. The rest is speculative at best, and trying to speak on behalf of God at worst.

Young boyfriend + girlfriend living together. Haha, they're going to have sex.

idgaf what religion they're apart of. If they can get away with it they'll do it. Humans have powerful sex drives. That's all there is to it.

lolwat?

If they do, that is the point when they've done something which could possibly be considered immoral, and not a moment before.