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The Worth of a Person
Mar 5 2011, 4:55 am
By: rayNimagi  

Mar 5 2011, 4:55 am rayNimagi Post #1



How does one determine how much a person is worth? Or is there a universal concept that can be used to evaluate every individual? Are there people who are worth more than others? For example, is a neurosurgeon worth more than a serial killer?

Is there just one factor that determines how much a person is worth? Is it their personal morality, or usefulness to society? And if the latter, how does on determine "usefulness?" Is a custodian worth more than a lawyer?

The worth of a person is going to be subjective. But when you're faced with the decision on saving the life of one person over another, how do you determine who is worth more?



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Mar 5 2011, 5:00 am Raitaki Post #2



Quote from rayNimagi
The worth of a person is going to be subjective. But when you're faced with the decision on saving the life of one person over another, how do you determine who is worth more?
The person who takes the least time and effort to save worths the most.



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Mar 5 2011, 5:01 am lil-Inferno Post #3

Just here for the pie

Penis size.

I suppose a good way to determine usefulness would be how useful their skill set is during a zombie apocalypse. Actually that's a terrible idea, as it promotes murderers.




Mar 5 2011, 5:13 am The Starport Post #4



Kinda silly to ask whether and how we judge people or not, if you ask me. :rolleyes:

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Mar 5 2011, 5:38 am by Tuxedo-Templar.



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Mar 5 2011, 7:30 am Decency Post #5



I love this question, it really lets you get a good insight into what a person considers valuable about how they spend their time.

I'll answer when I'm more capable of forming a coherent answer. =o



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Mar 5 2011, 1:12 pm Centreri Post #6

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Nonsensical question. A person is worth differently depending on who you ask. And every time, the best way to find out is to give the person cancer and see how much the other people will pay to remove it. Which is a pretty horrible way of going about anything.

Or, maybe, for how much they'd sell that person..

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 5 2011, 1:38 pm by Centreri.



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Mar 5 2011, 1:36 pm Dem0n Post #7

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I think it can be determined pretty well by their starcraft skills. :sly:




Mar 5 2011, 4:27 pm NudeRaider Post #8

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

The worth of a person can't be measured and it isn't universal. It depends on who judges the person.
For example if you're the mother of the serial killer he will be much more worth to you than the neurosurgeon you've read about in a medical magazine.
If you're a patient of said neurosurgeon who just removed a brain tumor from you he'll be much more worth to you than the killer you've seen on TV news.

Or when you're looking for relaxation an artist can comfort your needs much better than a rocket scientist. If you wanna escape earth due to fatal asteroid impact however... well you get the idea.




Mar 5 2011, 7:27 pm EzDay281 Post #9



As a utilitarian/hedonist, in theory, the sole and fundamental measure of worth of a person (or any object, concept, thought, whatever) according to my beliefs is the sum of pleasure/displeasure it brings to the world (all relevant factors, including time, accounted for).



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Mar 5 2011, 7:33 pm OlimarandLouie Post #10



No person on this planet can effectively and completely judge the worth of a person. In order to judge someone completely, you must know everything about him/her, from his/her point of view, as well as everything every other person knows about that one person from everybody's point of view. Therefore, the only suitable judge for a human would be an all-knowing figure, such as God.
(No intention of beginning a Christian vs Atheist fight, I'm just stating what I think to be a very valid reason for why we can't effectively determine the worth of others.)



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Mar 5 2011, 8:25 pm TiKels Post #11



Just like any other object... You just ponder how much you could sell it for.



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Mar 7 2011, 4:10 am rayNimagi Post #12



Quote from Raitaki
The person who takes the least time and effort to save worths the most.
What if two people are tied to some train tracks right after a fork in the tracks, and a train is coming their way? You're standing next to the switch in the tracks and can divert the train to kill either person A or person B. What if they both take the same amount of effort to save?

Quote from EzDay281
the sole and fundamental measure of worth of a person ... is the sum of pleasure/displeasure it brings to the world
Prostitute > doctor?



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Mar 7 2011, 4:33 am Raitaki Post #13



Quote from rayNimagi
Quote from Raitaki
The person who takes the least time and effort to save worths the most.
What if two people are tied to some train tracks right after a fork in the tracks, and a train is coming their way? You're standing next to the switch in the tracks and can divert the train to kill either person A or person B. What if they both take the same amount of effort to save?

Quote from EzDay281
the sole and fundamental measure of worth of a person ... is the sum of pleasure/displeasure it brings to the world
Prostitute > doctor?
In that case, just do what computers do.....freeze up while trying to settle the algorithm :wtfawesome:
EDIT: No, actually just leave the train to go straight towards whichever fork it'd have gone without your intervention. That way you don't waste energy operating the switch, nor do the train have to go the wrong way from its intended course. Less damage :awesome:



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Mar 7 2011, 6:35 am EzDay281 Post #14



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Prostitute > doctor?
If you think AIDS is fun and the particular doctor's never managed to comfort/save more people than he's botched operations on, then sure.



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Mar 8 2011, 3:08 am New-Guy Post #15



How close the person is to you, i.e., your mother is probably closer than some one across the nation you've never met.
How helpful they can been/have been. The more someone has helped you in the past, and the more likely they will help you in the future, the more worth they would be to you.
To me, that kinda sums it up..



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Mar 11 2011, 5:51 am Madroc Post #16



To determine your value, you have to determine what value set you use. If you use the traditional value set, then the following would be taken into consideration:

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But if you use your own value set, you essentially can determine your own value.

I guess.




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Mar 12 2011, 11:53 pm lSHaDoW-FoXl Post #17



Well, we certainly can't judge the worth of someone for their intellect. People are a stupid looking species that does stupid things. Therefor I propose this - I'll judge the worth of someone according to how much I like them. It may not be the most fairest of methods but I can assure you it's the most honest. Technically valuing someone's life around your own beliefs is just as wrong as judging them through how you know them. Therefore I do it the more simple and straightforward way.

No one has the right to judge anyone but if my own opinion actually did own some weight as of someone's worth it would probably look a lot like that. I would probably indeed weigh someone's worth according to whether they hurt me or help me. In short, I'd probably pull the same bull shit Yagami Light did.



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