Sixen, perhaps we need to clear up a few things here, seeing as how you appear to be misunderstanding everything.
StarEdit Network began as a mapping site that acted as repository for resources pertaining to the mapmaking process for StarCraft: Brood War, as well as a community involved with said mapmaking. With the release of StarCraft 2, SEN modified its existing infrastructure to accommodate changes necessary to make the site SC2-friendly. Most active members are people retained from the StarCraft 1 SEN community.
SC2Mapster was created and run by a single administrator, namely, you, Sixen. You started the site with the intention of making it a successful StarCraft 2 site, without ties to Brood War. You joined SEN and had very little activity, doing a bit of self-promotion in various places as your first few posts ("I was offered co-leader in Oo", "Ha I created a clan at around the same time...", etc.). Now there's nothing wrong with that, but you only began actively posting on SEN
after you began to have thoughts about SC2Mapster.
You dug around for information, tools, and asked SENers for help about custom maps and map formats so that you could post the same content on your site. I do not know how many of the tools you acquired went on to be posted on SC2Mapster with your site name stamped on them and the original creators removed, but I'm sure that there are instances of plagiarism pinned on your site somewhere.
Even all of that was tolerable to an extent, but not for long; you just came across as incredibly pretentious when you started
advertising SC2Mapster everywhere in the SEN forums. Here's an excerpt from SEN's Rules that you probably never bothered to read:
Advertising- Do not solicit commercial or personal products, scams, chain letters, clan recruitments, marketing, or games (ie, outwar) for your personal gain.
- You are allowed to include links to your website in the proper places such as your profile, signature, and the Creative Works forum.
Because you weren't immediately banned for massively advertising your site for the purpose of directing traffic away from SEN and towards the advertisement-ridden SC2Mapster, we get things like:
Are you a sentient spambot or something? The SEN admins were nice enough to let you keep your external links to SC2Mapster, but you seemed hell-bent on not allowing people to link to SEN on SC2Mapster. On top of this, your site is riddled with advertisements. It took my computer half a minute to load your site with ABP turned off because of the sheer number of banner ads. (In comparison, I installed Red Alert 3 in 840 milliseconds. Eight-hundred-and-fucking-forty milliseconds. A single page on your site took about forty times longer to load.)
When you solicit advice about how to improve SC2Mapster on SEN, this happens:
I'm talking about reduced space because of the fixed-width layout, bland and uninformative DLDB interface, limited and unspecialized forum software, and general annoying-to-usedness deriving from the aforementioned factors and a horrid skin that's just painful to look at because of uniform textures on different parts of the website. It's very annoying to read.
That still doesn't help. If you want to criticize, be specific. Again, all you're saying is that it sucks.
How is this not being specific? Do you want us to kiss your ass and say "
omigod SC2Mapster is awesome and its skin is totally awesome and we totally don't need to like change anything or whatever!!!111one1"?
When people link to SEN on SC2Mapster, this happens:
Well, sc2mapster just made one of the worst move they could make to my eyes: deleting a post that was advertised to help -all- sc2 mapping communities only because the place where it was happening was on SEN.
The case is that I never forced any member from sc2mapster to move to SEN in the post and all I had said was that you had to register on SEN in order to be eligible for the contest.
I really do not understand what the hell went inside the head of the administrators of the forum, but I am really deceived.
Period.
Well, considering that we by no means restricted how Sixen advertised, I'm rather disappointed...
Interesting. You deleted my advertisement topic, too. I made no PM's and my only posts on mapster were those for mapmaking help. What's the justification this time?
Our administration let you push your Mapster advertisements all over the place, but one advertisement for a contest of ours and it's deleted? What the fuck?
Then you start flaming SEN and its members when you ran out of arguments.
Yeah we should probably lay off Sixen, guys. Clearly he's not SEN material, but there's no reason to smash and bash him around here. And we all know, Mapster may have won the first battle, but SEN will win the war, muhahahahahahaha
Ahahaha, you're hilarious. Who are you? I've been here longer than you have, child.
Regardless, I don't see SEN being anywhere in the SC2 mapping scene. It's too late.
On top of all of that, you seem to be an extremely unethical administrator of your site, reading the PMs of SC2Mapster members and completely bypassing the "Private" part of "Private Messaging". You are acting in a manner no more civilized than some cruel overlord of a dystopian regime.
Alright then I guess I take back what I said about wishing you had been made admin. I'd rather not have someone reading my PM's between other members on a whim.
And don't say it was more than a whim. He didn't publicly broadcast any hostility, you had to SEARCH him for for them. He didn't give you a single reason to search him, so that's why I say you did it on a whim. I'd rather not be in that big brother type of environment. You should only go through the Private Messages of someone who is causing trouble like blatant spammers and trolls, not just to satisfy your curiosity. Abuse of power.
And if your response to that is "It's MY website, I can do whatever the FUCK I want!" Then more reason I wouldn't want you as admin here. I'm not arguing that you can't do it, I'm arguing that you shouldn't.
Moose and IP can read your PM's just as easily as I can read my users. Maybe you missed that. I didn't search for anything. Each user has an activity log, since half of his activity was in those PM's, they were the top things there. They'll do it when they need to, i'll do it when I need to.
When you decide to make your own fansite and can walk in my shoes, then you can tell me how i'm supposed to moderate mine. Until then, you really have no say. I don't want to be Admin on SEN anyway, that whole ordeal was over 2 months ago. It was nothing more than a thought in my head, nothing ever came of it.
Really now? You should exercise moderation when performing site moderation. Here, I'll grab a definition for you:
moderation (%u02CCm%u0252d%u0259%u02C8re%u026A%u0283%u0259n)
-n in moderation: within moderate or reasonable limits.
By reading private messages between members of your site without regard for any "privacy", you have passed the reasonable limits that a site owner may exercise his power within. When we inquired you about this, what did you do? Oh right, more flaming.
I like how this was proved false, and how the point is that they don't do it unless they need to, you clearly missed that. Don't try to compare your rummaging through people's PM's on a whim to Moose doing it only when necessary and IP NEVER doing it.
yeah that's the thing, they do it when they need to do it, you do it out or boredom or curiosity or whatever. There was no sensible reason for you to need to do it. Just be honest about this please.
On the contrary, nothing was proved to be anything. They can look at the PM's just as easily as I can.
You're right CAFG, i'm a horrible Administrator. I have no idea what i'm doing. The fact that Mapster has upwards of 50k unique people per month, within 2 months of it's existence, is a mere coincidence. Maybe you can teach me? Because you seem so sure about everything you're saying, you must've ran an extremely popular website previously, right? What was that website? I'd love to check it out.
Your egotistic attitude is not welcome here. Please, for the sake of saving yourself any additional embarrassment:
GTFO.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 21 2010, 1:01 am by DevliN. Reason: Removed minor flames. :D
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