They scream and hiss. They're based on the Bugs from Starship Troopers and the Tyranids from WH40K. They've been described since day 1 as a 'hive-mind'. They're based on bugs, none of the animals that were even assimilated were dinosaur like.


Ya... Except a lot of the same people worked on both.

"He's given borne witness to negative suns" This doesn't even make sense, and wasn't the quote from the first game. Zeratul is and has always been a walking talking over the top sci-fi stereotype. Stop reading too much into this. You thought he was a badass when you were 12 because you were an idiot.

Starship Troopers was cool. Never knew much about Tyranids, still don't (in depth, at least). I always thought of them as having populations like bugs, but were like mutated normal animals.

Hydralisks, snake
Zerglings, dogs,
Mutalisks, bat-snakes
Defilers, scorpions

That doesn't change the fact that he was a badass.

And, no, I was 8. Or 9. Or 10. Maybe 12. I don't remember, it was too long ago.

Does someone need to show you how to turn up the volume? I think everything is amazing the game. The in-game videos are enough to make a movie!

~13m is enough to make a movie?

I can turn up my volume, but then I still can't overhear the other sounds. Unit responses were louder in SC1, I think.

Can't you like count it? Like your age - 12 years?

Are you illiterate? Like the text I increased the size for, underlined, italicized, and bolded - it was too long ago, I don't remember?

Got anymore of that e-peen you wanna share?

I bought Wings of Liberty for the campaign, custom games, and the editor. Blizzard fucked up the former two and through it, screwed with the last.
They are fucking stupid.
NOT TO MENTION THE ALSO FUCKED UP THE VOICE ACTING. HOW THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT?
New Gauss Rifles sound like HALOL3 Assault Rifles. FUCKING. RETARDED. MY GUNS FROM 4 YEARS AGO ARE MORE MANLY THAN THE NEW ONES.
Same applies to the Goliath. And what the Hell is up with the graphics in general? I read that it was indistinguishable before; wow, "before" must have been --------- just absolute shit.

Thanks Blizzard, for ruining custom games with your shitty popularity system and lack of custom game names. Congratulations on going from "lots of potential" to "stupid broken crap fed by the tears of SC1 fans."

AND WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE 20MB LIMIT ON CUSTOM MAPS? Oh, wait, excuse me. 21MB. THAT HELLHOLE IS SHARED BY 5 MAPS. 21MB/5MAPS DOES NOT LEAVE A LOT OF ROOM FOR ANYTHING GOOD.

Why the Hell would I not be angry? And there EULA is fucked up.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 30 2010, 7:28 am by Sand Wraith.

I don't like your tone bitch. The game was released 12 years ago, I assumed you played it then. No need get angry at me. I didn't make SC2 and I didn't make you buy it...

Last I recall, Protoss infantry such as Zealots and High Templars in the original StarCraft "teleported back" as well. The 2D sprite gives an impression of them burning and evaporate. Dragoons, Immortals, robotic units such as Protoss Reaver, Colossi explode to pieces.

Pylons are obviously crystals but they are not Khalas, Uraj, nor the Khaydarin. Khalis and the Uraj were "rare" crystals that are collected and used by Zeratul and Artanis; They are used to activate the Xel'Nage temple in Shakuras, and never used again. The Khaydarin crystals were protected by Protoss units, but the Zerg were able to harvest them on Aiur. One of which was placed on the destroyed Protoss Temple on the last Zerg mission in vanilla StarCraft. The Void is another story regarding to the lore.

"More"
No tributes? All terran units from StarCraft and Brood War had returned. The remaining Protoss and Zerg units from the original games have yet to be seen in StarCraft II but may appear in the expansion packs "Heart of the Swarm" and "Legacy of the Void". It is clearly obvious that you did not own the Collector's Edition. The CE has Jim Raynor's dogtag, which is a USB that allows you to put into any computer and play the original StarCraft games. There's also issue #0 comic book in the CE. The soundtrack for StarCraft II is fit into a disc. Other than the friend codes or WoW codes, the CE has a large quantity amount of artwork, created concepts, for StarCraft II. I'm sure there are StarCraft 1 tributes.

Korean difficulty level? What is this I don't even... try and go to Diamond League and/or challenge yourself against Insane AI/Brutal difficulty.

"Your Edit"
I said this repeatedly in the shoutbox before. Give the voice actors a break; it's been twelve years. The original voice actor in StarCraft II for Jim Raynor voice acted until the original voice actor for Jim Raynor in the original StarCraft had returned. That goes along with other characters such as Sarah Kerrigan, whose voice actress was replaced. The original voice actress for Kerrigan did not meet Blizzard's satisfaction. Zeratul's original voice actor is dead and is replaced. Artanis sounds very similar to the one in Brood War. You are simply being too harsh. The script writing is another story, which gives each character in the Hyperion a unique stereotype that is recognizable. For example: Tychus is a criminal, and Swann is a mechanic who can build anything. The way they communicate, their expressions, and responses to Raynor is believable, in my opinion.

Bengalaas happens to live a habitat in Aiur, the Protoss homeworld. The Kakaru is seen in the Dark Templar world called Shakuras. In Earth, every organic, including humans (terran), being dies as a corpse, or blown to pieces, etc.

Why does the term "void" even matter to you? Why does it even bother you? It's just a word.

Physique? So in your point of view, should the marines have that same look from the original StarCraft? In StarCraft II, they try establish a believable in realistic science fiction. Like you literally see a Terran Marine get suit up for battle. The suit in StarCraft 1 looks fairly generic. The recreated scene of Sarah Kerrigan's downfall because of Mengsk (in SC1) shown Jim Raynor wearing a marine armor from StarCraft II. Why does the appearance bother you? The Zealots' health and shields prove tougher than Marines. Marines have bulky astronaut armor so in return, Blizzard drew the Protoss to appear tougher.
3. Read what I said about voice actors.

There are incomplete units. And the economy placement in the StarCraft I missions (Not Brood War) was a mess. The economy placement in the 30 missions in Vanilla StarCraft slows down the economy. StarCraft I was originally going to have stuff like Mercenaries and Cantina, which was finally added for StarCraft II. There were a lot of incomplete animations such as Gerard DuGalle's portrait when idle (not talking), and along with other incomplete files.

Zeratul's original voice actor is dead. Grow a heart about the loss and accept the replacement. And also, try not to be homophobic. I already do not value your opinion since you used the word "nigger" in the shoutbox as a rant against StarCraft II.

Why do you care about the term "The void"?

Source of lore in the video game itself? You personally believed that Zealots died and burned, which I remember reading a while back that they did not. And this was before StarCraft II, I recall that.

StarCraft II just came out. Why expect immediately an add-on campaign like the Enslavers? Blizzard puts their main effort in 3 individual campaigns. The demo for StarCraft II would probably be the first three, or completely separate missions. In terms of demo, Blizzard already sponsored 2 beta phases before Wings of Liberty was released.

Dinosaurs? What are you talking about? It's very clear that Blizzard took their ideas from science fiction films, and warhammer 40k. The UED Victory Report cinematic at the end of the Terran campaign in Brood War is a clear parody of Starship Troopers' propaganda. Because StarCraft is a twelve year old game, the 2D sprites and portraits have a tendency to give a false look. For example, when I first saw the Infested Terran, it did not appear like a Terran Marine. I thought the Zerg vein from the bottom left corner of the portrait appeared like an elephant nose. The helmet part was hard to notice due to the color of black. I original thought the Zerg drone's wrinkles were the eyes, but actually the red ovals at the side were eyes. The drone's eyes were camouflaged with the background.

Here's a topic I found in Team Liquid. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133215&currentpage=All

Zerglings are not dinosaurs, but appear raptor-like as a 2D sprite. Seriously, now.





So, you want a corpse to voice act for the sequel to a twelve year old game?

They're not dinosaurs, like I said. And also, dinosaurs from hundreds of millions of years ago? We do not know exactly what they sound like. Movies like Jurassic Park only gives an impression belief of what dinosaurs sound like.

I'm done talking about voice actors. Enough is enough.

Zeratul's appearance didn't change much other. Instead of orange eyes, he has green eyes. He also has some armor pieces such as armor pads now. He gained new abilities such as blink and void prison (Similar to the Phoenix's graviton beam). You're complaining that Zeratul has 15 less damage. And yes he does have reduced shields from 400 to 100, but he now has five times more hit points than in original StarCraft. When Zeratul gets too close to a detector, the detector's proximity is revealed.


Thirteen minutes? It's clear that it is not. There are a lot of cutscenes in StarCraft II, that last way longer than thirten minutes. A average movie lasts about an hour to two hours.

I hear the units fine.

You didn't complain about the Gauss Rifles and Goliaths before. Now you just want something new to complain about. Just deal with it; stop being nitpicky over tiny things. Let go of the shift key, because you're just embarrassing yourself than expressing your passion of hate.

I said this in the shoutbox before, StarCraft II tries to fix the problems from WarCraft III. Quite literally, every hour in every day since DotA was released, players cannot find any other custom maps but DotA. They can, but DotA gets in the way. StarCraft II tries to categorize everything together.

Deal with it, and don't be spoiled.


I'm done.

Post has been edited 4 time(s), last time on Jul 30 2010, 9:21 am by KrayZee.

Pretty much all of your replies are for quotations taken out of context. I was mentally facepalming every few seconds. Lemme grab a demotivator to describe how I felt.


Also, shoutout to Devourer, assuming he's the one who programmed the new dialog boxes for BB code. David too, I guess? And whoever else.

I'll give out a full report once you're finished with your post.

@Gigins:
You're making an assumption about my age based on your interpretation of what I wrote. I'm not really mad, just dumbstruck by what you didn't read. Or did read but ignored. I dunno.

IF YOU'RE OPPOSE MY OPINIONS, AT LEAST DO IT RIGHT. But, hey, maybe I just need to clarify myself.

Example:
oh lol I was talking specifically about the portraits included in the CE for the B.Net account.
SC2 soundtrack for SC2.
I didn't like the comic.
The dogtag is cool, no doubt. It's heavy, but that makes it authentic. awwww yea
I'm not impressed by the artbook; feels like the majority of the images can be found online as concepts, etc. At least I can use the digital versions to make sigs, avatars, wallpapers, etc. Kinda cool, but pretty underwhelming. There are some developer's notes on some of the works, which are pretty interesting. But, seriously, I'm pretty sure most of the pictures can be found online, since I recognized a significant number of them.

Yea, most of what you replied to (if not all) just need some clarification. I'll get to them once you're finished, I think, though.

That's because you cannot bear to even slightly comprehend at the perspectives of others. You don't understand a thing, and that's what you are lacking.

I'm taking your post and inserting my comments in red.


(To be continued.)

(Continued.)


I now ask you if you ever experience any media. I'm trying to examine every detail critically, and all you're doing is whining about how I'm being too harsh on a game that so many people have waited years for. I haven't even raged about the story yet (in this thread, anyway).

It's difficult for me to be empathetic when you've given me no worthwhile material to discuss with.

(FIN)

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 30 2010, 12:20 pm by Sand Wraith.

I love this thread.

Le sigh.

Where do you think dragoons come from? Units like zealots who come back that are so disfigured or mutilated are placed in dragoons so they can keep fighting. Pretty much like Fenix, except I think for him they had to manually retrieve him (not sure on that since the 'power/energy/psi' was shut off". Yea, you didn't bring up robotics and he did. It's a just in case or 'FYI". It didn't seem like you knew some things so he was passing along more information. You are so aggressive in your posts in this exact way, it's annoying. If you don't think it's part of the conversation you use it as a refute to why they have no clue to what their talking about or something. gtfo.



If I remember the lore correctly it was a Na'vi thing where ALL their minds were connected and any of the higher ups in the conclave with lolgod psi powers could do things like know where they are at because all protoss are linked. They severed the connection but cutting off their hair pieces, I'd imagine in part to hide Shakuras. Pylons give off indifferent psi it seems since both the khalai and the dark templar use them. I'd like to say the crystals were meant to channel the khalai and dark templars power but weren't they created by the xel'naga? Which predates the banishment of the dark templars and probably before dark templar existed. I mean it could still be "Dark" energy since that dark energy was always their since protoss day one they just never learned how to use it. I could look it up right now but It's more fun to speculate lore.


Eh the void makes sense I guess. They use the vacuum of space, bending light, nuetron flares, (are arbitars DT or Khalai technology? if DT...) Worm holes. Again it's more fun to speculate :3

I haven't played starcraft2 yet but by looking at the first pic it is VERY likely that it actually isn't more then one lay but the gold piece just sticking out more to make it look like theirs another layer of head coming out. The head still lines up. Search your heart. You know his head to be one piece.

Hah you know whats funny? In starcraft 1 you could actually hear the overlord use words. "huh?" "Yeaah?" "Alright!". inb4 "i have no idea why you brought this up it has nothing to do with th conversation your point is stupid GTFO" Just throwing it out there for lulz.


It wasn't a retcon for SC2. I remember it being official for a while now. And it's a GOOD retcon anyway. Fleshes out dragoons, immortals, and Fenix's first defeat.


Starcraft had cutscenes... that were probably in total 13 minutes too. Their were the intros, the endings, and I think a middle cinematic. Not much more than 2 minutes each.


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I'm trying to figure out if this is just a really effective troll or if you really believe what you're saying...

He really believes it. Sand-Wraith is 7 kinds of retarded.

sand wraith: if ye really dislike the game as much as you seem to be saying, i'd suggest ye just don't play it

Latter. Actually, it might be former. Not sure.


Why so serious?

I paid $100 for the game and I'm gonna squeeze every bit of entertainment I can from it, including whatever rage is induced.

Honestly, you guys are talking like you're not finding this entertaining.

I found it entertaining, which is why I made that post.