Not true, there are a ton of people who hate both.

A few questions about the end of open beta (I assume the means the game is going to go on sale):
1)Any advantages to preordering?
2)Will it be sold in stores or online only?

I feel like half of the S2 heroes suck and the other half are good.
Engi-His stun is good, but his turret and l3 seem sort of useless. The nerf to the turret makes it seem like it useless without lots of attack modifiers. The l3 just doesn't do much, although I suppose it does help. And his l4 is useful. On the whole, he only works as a support hero, but there are better heroes at that than him.
FA-A pretty straightforward agi carry.
Chipper-I think he's pretty fun, but he is op as is. His missiles need to be toned down.
Fadye-I haven't actually played as her, so I don't know what to think. Seems kind of scout-ish as noobs just use her to ks.

1) Gold Shield. Also, if you pre-ordered before open beta you also get to taunt and something else.
2) It will be online only.

Online purchase only sounds really stupid.

Lol, so I guess that will be it for me. I cannot buy HoN.

Purposeful, because packaging, transporting, and general marketing of the game to retailers is expensive and unprofitable for the relatively small company of S2.

Engineer can easily carry:
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42357662
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=42424935

One of these games is a scrim against a clan, one a 1700+. Engineer's tinker makes towers melt or take forever, +/- 9 armor is huge. His turret after you get a Charged Hammer rips through anything and his ultimate keeps them within range. His stun is 1000 range which is just a joke, the hero is pretty OP.

I think Chipper was fine until they added the SotM upgrade, now he's OP.

Fayde sucks, I've yet to be in a game where one made a difference.


EDIT: MAIDE'S BACK UP!!! http://stats.maide.ca/players/view/Googol/matches/

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@FaZ-

Well, Fayde is really a ganker who feasts upon the agi carries and int heroes early to mid game. I tried playing her like NA in dota and had some success. If you manage to farm a quick codex (at least before the recent changes) you could easily take out a squishy in less than 4-5 seconds and then run away.

I guess at the end of the day Fayde is supposed to slow down the enemy carries and int heroes so that when your carries face off against the enemy carries in the late game, your team will win.

Of course, that's the point of any ganker. But there's dozens better at it in HoN that can also do other things well.

I don't like Fayde. Her stun looks like a failed attempt to make a spell seem new and original (your mini-shadow steps out and attacks you? really?). Then again I like playing mostly with Intelligence based heroes and ranged agility heroes, Witch Slayer being my absolute favourite.

Defiler is amazing. Nuff said.

Stop playing no-stat games and maybe you might improve.

I do play stats games. I am bad at Succubus, that is it.

Non attentive gameplay ftw.

Quote from Phobos

Defiler is amazing.

After my first game with her just now, this. Most definitely this.

Wide and long lasting silence, 350 magic damage nuke with 5 seconds cast delay with wide and long range, spirits that add incredible power to your attacks and allow you to take down any towers AND heal you once they are done, she is just perfect to me.

With her E and ultimate spells maxed out, how many spirits does she put out?

20 spirits.

She's still easy target for any Deadwood (or similar nukers) and physical dps carries.

Good Defilers should end the game through pushes before carries can do anything.