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How would you save the world?
Apr 29 2010, 7:13 am
By: Rantent  

Apr 29 2010, 7:13 am Rantent Post #1



The world has a lot of problems today.
-Overpopulation
-Not enough resources
-Too many idiots
-Not enough love
-Bad leadership
ect.

If you were a leader of a nation, (or if you don't think that is enough power, your the world leader,) how would you structure your society so that you could handle the problems of the world?

Some thoughts to address:
What are the biggest problems? Which ones need to be addressed immediately? Is there one solution for many problems?

This is a big question, so I expect big answers. I'll give my own opinion later so as to not direct this too much. I hope to stay away from points such as "If I were in charge I'd make everyone my slave and that would solve everything."
I want to know what you think the guys in management should be concentrating their efforts on.



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Apr 29 2010, 8:01 am MasterJohnny Post #2



I would probably heavily tax places of worship to discourage religion. The tax would be used to help pay for education.
Invest in renewable technology.
Make it illegal to mass print religious texts as that would be a waste of paper.
President must hold a natural science degree as well as a sociology degree. (Though the only bad president I have seen in my lifetime is Bush.)
I would basically attempt to create a more rational society.

I do not think overpopulation would be a problem until a couple hundred years from now.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 29 2010, 9:20 am by MasterJohnny.



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Apr 29 2010, 8:52 am Jack Post #3

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

1. Religious freedom. Unlike SOME people, I don't discriminate or hate people based on their beliefs.

2. Remove the UN. Waste of space.

3. As I am the supreme leader, no need for different governments for each country. Instead, they would all have the same basic law code, structure, and system. I could expand on this but won't for now.

4. Start an international aid system based on helping people help themselves. No free handouts except in emergency situations, for example, tsunamis.

5. No more armies. If I'm supreme leader, and will remain as such, then wars will be outlawed. There's numerous problems with this, but that's the basic idea.



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Apr 29 2010, 2:48 pm BeDazed Post #4



If I were the supreme leader of the world,
I would first create an army that will rule the world by force- to do whatever I want.
After that, develop weapons and exoskeletal armor to rule the world by terror- to do whatever I want.
Oh, I would also create a religion in my name, and make a law that requires all people to worship me- the one and only supreme leader of this world.
I will also nationalize companies that are crucial to me, and my maintained dominance through out the world.
Oh, and any other army besides mine will obviously be outlawed. Any attempt to create a military force will be dealt with- accordingly.
Obviously, once I have gained enough power, I will overthrow every single government on Earth, and bomb the capital of any country that decides to resist.
Every country that continues to resist even when their governments are overthrown, will have all their citizens executed.
Of course, citizens who are loyal to me will have benefits the disloyal don't.
I will also fund massive research on nuclear fusion, space colonization, and weapons and defensive technology- oh and weapons of mass destructions that do not leave fallouts.
Of course, to solve the food shortage and overpopulation, and lack of energy- I will nationalize the agricultural industry, and make huge factory farms that exceed imaginable size and technology put into nowadays.
And for the greater good, I will demolish every country around the tropical zone, and make the zone a 'green area'- which will prevent them from cutting down the forests- which obviously allow us more benefits then cutting them down. I will also put a team of scientists to research the undiscovered wilderness.
I will also outlaw fire arms for ordinary citizens.
Theres probably more. But I will refrain...

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Apr 29 2010, 4:22 pm Fire_Kame Post #5

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I'd start be deregulating business, and I'd spearhead social initiatives to pull the world into safer and better use of resources. I'd lead by example and wouldn't pump money into toxic assets and other countries. I'd restore national defense budget and insist other countries do the same. I'd bring the National Guard home and replace any forces (as necessary) with army, af and marines. I'd offer tax breaks for companies that choose to offer health insurance, not penalties for companies that choose otherwise. I'd remove all the foolish regulations on international money transfer, and I'd work on getting a system - a work system - for authorizing payments. I'd get rid of the electoral college and hold the people accountable for elections. I would encourage states to hold themselves accountable for their own actions, I'd encourage organized and lawful local militias. I'd encourage our people to be held accountable for their own actions, for their own failings. I would offer initiatives for people who need to start again. I'd overhaul the bankruptcy laws. Companies and people need to start again, yes. But there's a difference between needing to start again and using the system, and therefore screwing over a thousand more people in the process.

Yes...most of this is business initiative...but business drives change.
I don't believe the world will ever disarm. I fear that concept. I think everyone else should, too.

EDIT:
Quote from Rantent
This is a big question, so I expect big answers. I'll give my own opinion later so as to not direct this too much. I hope to stay away from points such as "If I were in charge I'd make everyone my slave and that would solve everything."
A little despot never hurt anyone... :D




Apr 29 2010, 7:22 pm DavidJCobb Post #6



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Apr 30 2010, 4:22 am KrayZee Post #7



I thought there was already a topic about this, also known as "World Dictator" but that was laughable because of how corrupted and evil Centreri wanted to be, way worse than Stalin and Hitler. :bleh:



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Apr 30 2010, 4:52 am Centreri Post #8

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You're just wrong, Krayzee. ^^ I find it hilarious that after what you saw BeDazed write about executing a country's citizens for a leader's error or what IP wrote in the last thread about nuking Africa, you still single me out for eugenics. Grow up.

One can't change the world as the head of the nation - or, at least, I'm too lazy to specify how I'll go from being the dictator of Nigeria to dictator of the world, so I'll assume I'm dictator of the world.

1) Eugenics. I believe that genes play a large part in the intelligence of a population. I read a book that tried to popularize unorthodox applications of statistical analysis (Freakonomics, or Freakonomics 2) where the author cited a comprehensive study of 20,000 children within the United States, and he particularly noted how, through adoption, it was possible to come to the conclusion that its the genes of the original parents (based on their occupation and income), more than the adoptive parents, affected how the child will turn out. Though even I don't completely believe that upbringing is as irrelevant as portrayed in that book, I believe intellect, deformities and the like to be as good a place to start as any to depopulate the Earth. Whether through sterilization or mass murder (Sterilization means I'm not Hitler, so let's go with that), it can be done. The top 2% of the population intellect-wise (taking into account things like deformities, hereditary diseases, etc) is allowed and encouraged to have as many children as they please. Top 10% are allowed and encouraged to have up to three children. Top 20% can have two, top 50% can have one. Bottom 50% of the world's population can have no children. Now, were I dictator, I'd definitely set up a commission to analyze how many children the best would want to have, etc, to fine-tune these numbers to maximize population intellect-index while allowing for gradual depopulation. Additionally, I understand that we have no perfect way to measure intellect as of now; however, it doesn't have to be perfect, and I don't have the resources of a dictator to tell you what the ideal measurement would be right now.

2) Greatly increase taxation on the rich. No one needs an income of more than $500,000 (except a top 2% person with 50 children; that would, however, be accounted for).

3) Fat Tax. I covered and debated this topic in depth in the topic "Obesity" (read it, it's funny). Basically, we tax unneeded, bad food/drinks like burgers or soda for 200% of what they're worth (again, I don't have the resources of a dictator to give the ideal number) to prevent obesity. Additionally, have a separate part where people are checked up on while on work and if they're overweight, they will be fined a certain amount. Yearly check.

4) Harsher punishment for crimes, up to and including torture. Mass murderers are tortured; torturers are tortured. I don't want to get into too much detail, but I think that the harsher the law, the less crime we'll have.

5) Invest very heavily into further development of "green" energy production (focus on nuclear), architectural efficiency, military/space technology. Once the threat of a nuclear war is eliminated and one government's in control, we should focus on sustainability of our civilization and the ability to defend ourself against extraterrestrial threats (basically, asteroids and aliens. Yep, too many movies).

6) Once the technology and everything is thought-through, start the implementation of a command economy run by computers. I've read about this before; the USSR didn't want to use computers because of how closely that mirrored how the West was using them (sounds iffy to me, but that's what I recall reading), and a South American experiment in using a computer to run a country was ruined by a military coup (I cannot recall which, unfortunately). Basically, when supercomputers get fast and strong enough, they can be used to run a command economy in a very efficient way. It can be more efficient than capitalism, because you don't have several organizations/companies working simultaneously on what is essentially the same technology; you don't have human error, irrationality or corruption siphoning capital. If it can be properly executed, I believe that a supercomputer can be the best way to run the economy, though I don't have many specifics. However, if we're going to be run by a supercomputer... I want to transfer my consciousness to it, 'enslave' humanity, and live forever as the benevolent ruler and conquerer of galaxies.

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Apr 30 2010, 7:09 am Dapperdan Post #9



At what point do harsher punishments for crimes become crimes themselves? At what point does the punishment become a crime? We don't need to torture and kill people he commit crimes. Forgiveness will quicker save the world than fear. If you want people to not commit crimes because they are afraid, then you're not fixing anything. People need to understand why crimes are wrong if you want them to refrain from committing them. Focusing on punishment only creates an environment that expects crime. Any environment that expects crime is only going to end in crime.

What the world needs is compassion. People need to care more about one another. It's poetry that will save this world.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein

The amount of nonsense in this topic is hard to believe, so I'm going to stop at this without going on forever.



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Apr 30 2010, 9:05 am BeDazed Post #10



As stated above by Centreri, if there was a technology that allowed me to live forever through technological means- I will record every single gene of each individual reachable on the planet, then eradicate any and all human being alive on the planet- after I have successfully been 'immortalized'. I will then use robots to build an empire of me- and reproduce genetically modified humans by filtering out the physically ill gene, genes with defects, and genes that will cause destabilization to the gene pool. I will have them educated to be living in the greatest age of human history. I will make them research many areas of Science. There will not be a single human military. I will advance nano-technology enough to revolutionize industrial production, and quickly put my effort into weapons and viable interstellar traveling methods. Then, I will create a Clone Army, and nano-technologically enhanced human beings to colonize and conquer the Universe. They will be programmed to be obedient to all my orders, but still retain personality. But no Human being will be allowed to live without the nano-implant. Everyone will be under my control.



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Apr 30 2010, 10:31 am Gigins Post #11



http://www.thevenusproject.com/



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Apr 30 2010, 6:37 pm lil-Inferno Post #12

Just here for the pie

I'd purge the 2% stupidest of the population annually. Not only does this get rid of idiots, but it also solves overpopulation and a lack orf resources (stupid people tend to be wasteful. "Not enough love", if I get what you're saying, would also be solved. It's been proven that intelligent people are less likely to break their fidelity to their spouse/girlfriend/hand/pillow. I guess I'd also keep a large bunch of hot girls to be my hoes, too. Not sure how I'd measure intelligence, though. You'd probably only be purged if you're 18 or older.




Apr 30 2010, 8:31 pm Centreri Post #13

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Quote from Dapperdan
At what point do harsher punishments for crimes become crimes themselves? At what point does the punishment become a crime? We don't need to torture and kill people he commit crimes. Forgiveness will quicker save the world than fear. If you want people to not commit crimes because they are afraid, then you're not fixing anything. People need to understand why crimes are wrong if you want them to refrain from committing them. Focusing on punishment only creates an environment that expects crime. Any environment that expects crime is only going to end in crime.

What the world needs is compassion. People need to care more about one another. It's poetry that will save this world.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein

The amount of nonsense in this topic is hard to believe, so I'm going to stop at this without going on forever.
First of all, the only problem you're confronting here with your compassion is crime, and that was definitely not the main point of what I'd do. Second of all, there will always be crime. Everyone understands why crimes are illegal, everyone understands how horrible the pain must be while some nutjob is torturing someone. The problem is definitely not about understanding why torture is bad. All in all, I just find this a very, very odd post. Assuming that there will be no crime if we have classes on why torturing people is bad is ridiculous. People aren't perfect; psychopaths and others need to fear the repercussions of their actions. Saying that forgiveness is better than punishment is, for lack of a better word, wrong. I'm not going for a utopia, I'm going for a sustainable, advancing civilization. Utopia comes later, if I manage to get inside peoples heads and stop crimes before they happen. And, for the purpose of this discussion, that's irrelevant.



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Apr 30 2010, 8:37 pm The Starport Post #14



I still say sentient robots are the answer.

Humans are god's failed experiment. We do not work. At best, we're a means to an ends. And that ends is robots.



Amen.



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Apr 30 2010, 9:50 pm poison_us Post #15

Back* from the grave

Porn.



Naw, jk.
This list is authoritarian, and extremely so, but as world peace will never occur, why not have fun with ideas?
  • "Accountability Laws" -- Where someone cannot push the blame onto another because of incompetence or laziness. This would also reduce the number of stupid court cases where I'm suing McDonalds for hot coffee.

  • Religious Freedom -- You should have the right to be wrong.

  • Legal Gambling -- You should have the right to be stupid.

  • "Me From You" Laws -- Laws that protect me from you, not me from me (essentially, extending freedom).

  • Business Sense -- Leaders must have some background in business and sociology.

  • "Smart" Taxes -- Based on total assets, the poor get taxed less, the rich more. Tax reductions can be earned through having a larger family (up to a point), actually working for your income (heirs and heiresses would be heavily taxed), and generally being a contributing member of society.

  • Demilitarization -- Both actual military and civilians as well. Weapons will be scrapped for their metal except for a stockpile in an unknown location, and anyone found in possession of anything more than a butcher's knife will be...dealt with. See "Severe Punishments".

  • Universal Language -- A formal language, to be understood and spoken by default when meeting someone of unknown nationality. This isn't supposed to take over a person's native language, merely supplement their ability to communicate with as many people as possible. Most likely a "dead" language, such as Latin. Yes, I will revive the "dead".

  • Universal Currency -- Again, not supposed to take over a country's native currency, merely provide a standardized form of currency, legal tender in every nation. Also, it will be protected from inflation by having a set value relative to the mass of the bill.

  • Legal Reform -- Far stricter regulations, including on who may attend a trial. Family will not be allowed, unless they are directly involved. Trials such as the example in "Accountability Laws" will not be permitted. Cases will be pushed through the courts, limiting paperwork and time that the participants are outside of their normal societal role.

  • More Severe Punishments -- Rather than the current jail systems, repeat offenders will be "enrolled" in a forced labor program. First time offenders will not, unless they show extreme disregard for laws. A range of offenses can be made, and each given a numerical value (integers for the offense, decimal places indicate more/less severe), and a formula such as y = x^1.5(n-1.5) where "y" is the number of months of the forced labor program, "x" is the numerical value for his offense, and "n" is the number of times he's committed the offense. A similar formula will determine the length of incarceration.

  • Capital Punishment -- My method of Eugenics. People unable or unwilling to comply with the stricter guidelines set forth will be executed, most likely by modifying jail cells to be air-tight enough to pump Carbon Monoxide into their cell as they sleep, causing the closest thing to a painless death as is possible.

  • Gene Therapy -- Based off of genetics, individuals will be genetically altered to provide a less extreme range of depression/mania, passive/aggressive nature. Those who do not warrant therapy, but are still outside of the range of "normal", will be eligible for reduced-cost gene therapy, and both gene patients' and potential gene patients' peers will be regularly, randomly questioned to ascertain their compliance with society.

  • Those who do not wish to comply with the reform as it is happening will be provided a ticket to a biosphere on the moon, where they can die for all I care.

EDIT:If you want any justifications for the above list, feel free to ask ^^

EDIT2: Also, I might just make a graph to show how the forced labor increases.


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Apr 30 2010, 10:55 pm Centreri Post #17

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Is rape of a corpse actual... rape? I mean, one can argue that its non-consensual, but on the other hand... :P

On some other subjects that have been brought up: I would additionally try to implement a streamlined Russian language as the world language (simply because I'm Russian, and Russia is awesome. Screw efficiency!), illegalize gambling and lotteries, illegalize smoking (over a period of time, current smokers receive aid in dropping the habit), strive to make video games less violent, make the prison population more useful than they are now, and create experimental societies to test the effects of gun laws on crime. I don't know if the deterrent is worth giving everyone the ability to kill anyone else, so I'll decide experimentally.

I'll legalize prostitution, link credit cards to bank accounts and impose heavy regulation on banking corporations. I'll create a monopoly on real-life advertisement, limiting its effect on making everything ugly and I'll have the advertisement monopoly launch a massive project to catalog all information that can be gleaned about any product on the market, bring this information online (and in book-form, and there'll be telephone-help to choose for free) so people can choose what they want with very easy access to all the information they need. I'll also create a committee within the monopoly which will decide what products deserve to be on the rarer advertisements (and have my secret police heavily monitor them for corruption). These measures will shift competition further away from advertising and towards creating a better product. Along with my fat tax and such, this will help create healthier food industries, and generally improve competition in all fields in product quality.

I'll emphasize economic incentives to encourage companies to utilize government and privately developed technologies for green architecture and minimize their energy usage, going as far as tax breaks if necessary. I'll work to reduce the need for multiple cars per family and general car usage by increasing public transportation funding and lowering cost for using the bus, metro and railways to get to where you need to. There will be increased funding to create more railways to allow for easier transport of food, products and people across the world.

The money for all of this will be generated by hugely cutting down the military budget and shifting its focus from procurement to R&D to cut costs and by increasing taxes on the rich. I'm not sure it'll be enough to do all that I want, but I'm sure SOME progress can be made. After all, if we cut the world's military budget by 75%, that's one trillion dollars yearly right there. And in a world without multiple nation-states but only one, Mir (Russian for both "World" and "Peace"), we don't need procurement.

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Apr 30 2010, 11:08 pm DavidJCobb Post #18



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Apr 30 2010, 11:20 pm Centreri Post #19

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I added more since your last post. I want a unifying language because I want people to focus more on developing technologies and less on thinking differently. Both the USSR and the US managed to work fairly well within their different languages, so I doubt that the difference from language to language is that large. And on video games, I see no reason why they need to have blood and merciless killing. You can enjoy them very well without titles like GTA or whatever game had you killing civilians at an airport in cold blood.



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May 1 2010, 12:34 am EzTerix Post #20



never taking political advice from this site :wut:



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