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Police Brutality
Sep 18 2007, 10:18 pm
By: ToA  

Sep 22 2007, 2:59 am Sael Post #21



Fox "News" had some commentary that it was completely justified. Commentary against a leftie... can't say I'm surprised, even a little. Now if that kid had asked something about how horrible Bill Clinton had been and gotten tasered, then Ann Coulter and posse would be starting a small war.



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Sep 22 2007, 3:19 am MrrLL Post #22



I've actually never heard any of the conspiracies that he has mentioned, with the voting frauds and all of that. He could of also did the whole thing just to be a giant attention whore. If so, he's got his wish:
http://tazeelo.ytmnd.com/
http://dtmbkombat.ytmnd.com/
http://whatisdtmb.ytmnd.com/
http://ghosttasers.ytmnd.com/

It's apparently the new fad on YTMND.



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Sep 22 2007, 1:11 pm Golden-Fist Post #23



Quote from PwnPirate
But also he could have settled this with charges against the officers, instead he tried to escape law enforcement, even when they pinned him to the ground and told him to stop resisting. Also he ran out of his allotted time, and he kept ranting. If someone stands up in a movie theater near the ending and starts screaming, I think that justifies guards taking him away.
Because he's a crazy lunatic he was under the impression that if they took him away they were going to kill him. That's why he didn't want to go.

Your movie theater reference doesn't make sense. That's being a jackass and disturbing the peace for no reason. He wanted to contribute to the debate and event going on by asking a question, he wasn't screaming "FAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT" he was asking him a question and everyone kept interrupting him. What if by some chance you become very political and have many views. You get the chance to ask some senator "Why did you drop out of the presidential election if you won?" do you think that's a justified reason to have you TASED.

Holy shit, he's using the English language in a weird way, we better break out the batons and tasers because we can't just group all together and hold him, he's obviously a very strong individual.



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Sep 22 2007, 7:52 pm DT_Battlekruser Post #24



I think it's important to note that they attempted to escort him out first, but he broke free from the two officers who were escorting him and attempted to run before five more officers tackled him.



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Sep 22 2007, 8:33 pm ToA Post #25

Que Sera, Sera.

They cut his mic upon hearing "Skull and bones"...What does that tell you.




Sep 23 2007, 1:08 am WoAHorde Post #26



Quote from DT_Battlekruser
I think it's important to note that they attempted to escort him out first, but he broke free from the two officers who were escorting him and attempted to run before five more officers tackled him.

That still does not give the police the right to taser him when he's on the floor, being restrained by 5 heavily trained men.



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Sep 23 2007, 1:36 am InsolubleFluff Post #27



I found it lol that they overreacted so much.
I think despite the fact that he attempted to run away, break free and all that jazz, what happened to the right of free speach? in countries that care so much about freedom.
So honestly him running wasn't really the problem here, the fact that he was detained AND tasered for informing the public of the information that he knows and many others follow, is what is truely barbaric here.



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Sep 23 2007, 4:31 am Doodan Post #28



Quote from ToA
They cut his mic upon hearing "Skull and bones"...What does that tell you.
It tells me that you're a conspiracy theory nut. ;p

My beliefs sorta fall in the middle. I think the guy was deliberately trying to make a dramatic stand. He had to know there were cameras there. But I also believe that the officers could've subdued him without the tasering.

Also, I was soooo gonna post ytmnds in this topic, but Merrell beat me to it. =(



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Sep 23 2007, 5:20 am ToA Post #29

Que Sera, Sera.

Well im sure some of it the government didn't want people to know, so yeah.

and i may be a nut >.>




Sep 23 2007, 5:30 am FatalException Post #30



Quote from Golden-Fist
Five strong police officers
VS
One skinny white kid

Clearly tasers were needed.
A) He has the right to ask his question
B) Despite what anyone says about the QA session being over, Jerry said so himself he wanted to take the question
C) Five police officers.
D) He didn't incite a riot, he asked a controversial question.

This is police brutality in every way. Whether or not the kid is being a jerk doesn't change his rights.
Hey, someone else actually heard Kerry say 'Let me answer the question.'
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In that case, he should of been escorted. However, when they have like 5 cops on him and taze him when he obviously can't do anything, that's going overboard. I understand that he was screaming, but freedom of speech still stands. He did try and resist the cops, and failed miserably and much worse happened to him. So it's a situation where if what you said is true, then I believe the cops made an "okay" decision. It's not right in some ways but you must look at him disrupting a public event, resisting cops, and screaming his ass off. The cops did their jobs, they weren't that mean.
I hear reports say he injured two of the officers during his initial flailing, which was why they tased him.
By injure, do you mean slap? I really don't think he could've caused anything hospital-worthy by doing that.

Also, the blonde in the O'Reily thing kept saying that he could've had a weapon. If he had a weapon, he would've taken it out and used it by then. They made a bad choice. In fact, last night, I saw a guy run away from the cops after they cuffed him. The cops caught him, tied his feet, and carried him into the car. No tazers involved. Why didn't these officers do that?



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Sep 23 2007, 4:26 pm Golden-Fist Post #31



Quote from ToA
Well im sure some of it the government didn't want people to know, so yeah.

and i may be a nut >.>
If we could gain any knowledge from what he said the video would've never made it out of the building, he would be dead, and we would've never heard about this.



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Sep 23 2007, 6:33 pm ShadowBrood Post #32



Quote from ToA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lg9qTD6Z7zE&feature=bz301

Im sorry but the news is just annoying, Biggest wimp in america? yeah, sure.

Fox news is SUCK.

Sorry for posting a bit late, but Fox has Supreme Court permission to lie and call it news. They can do whatever the hell they want.



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Sep 23 2007, 6:42 pm Tazzy Post #33

Long forgotten founding member :P

The news (Tv, newspaper) always Make things worse than it really is. English Newspaper, for example they where agiasnt her mum before, BUT when the evidence was found USELESS they went "oh crap" and NOW are ON her side again.

as for the poice being harsh i say good for them... Police need to be aloud to be more strike to enforce the law.



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Sep 23 2007, 7:50 pm PwnPirate Post #34



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I found it lol that they overreacted so much.
I think despite the fact that he attempted to run away, break free and all that jazz, what happened to the right of free speach? in countries that care so much about freedom.
So honestly him running wasn't really the problem here, the fact that he was detained AND tasered for informing the public of the information that he knows and many others follow, is what is truely barbaric here.
While we do have freedom of speech, do we have freedom of flailing against police officers?
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By injure, do you mean slap? I really don't think he could've caused anything hospital-worthy by doing that.

Also, the blonde in the O'Reily thing kept saying that he could've had a weapon. If he had a weapon, he would've taken it out and used it by then. They made a bad choice. In fact, last night, I saw a guy run away from the cops after they cuffed him. The cops caught him, tied his feet, and carried him into the car. No tazers involved. Why didn't these officers do that?
Well even if he just slapped one of them, that would justify tasering. The tasering didn't actually deal any damage to him. Also the fact that he was still able control most of his muscles (screaming "ow") meant that the taser was probably mild.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Sep 24 2007, 12:23 am by PwnPirate.



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Sep 30 2007, 8:20 pm Wilhelm Post #35



Whatever happened to handcuffs?

This just shows that our "police" are often too incompetent to restrain people without excessive methods like tazoring.

They actually had the guy on the ground and had him subdued, and brought in the tasor FOR NO REASON other than they had said they were going to tasor him in the first place.



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Oct 3 2007, 9:11 pm EzDay281 Post #36



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If we could gain any knowledge from what he said the video would've never made it out of the building, he would be dead, and we would've never heard about this.
The person was talking about when the microphone was cut. If that measure can be taken as opposed to something that could arouse suspicion ( preventing the information from leaving the area, killing somebody... ) , it makes a lot more sense to, doesn't it?
Not that I agree with ToA that a conspiracy is likely. Comments like the quoted just annoy me.



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Oct 15 2007, 6:09 am frazz Post #37



1. Resist Arrest = Use Of Force: We have this thing called law.

2. In case nobody noticed, this whole thing was staged. The idea was to cut out that last bit of "No! Why are you doing this? Stop it!! No!!!" That guy was not retarded, in the technical sense. He sure was being a retard, though.

3. Tasers aren't really that bad. Police are trained to use them when we people do this kind of thing. If they didn't have tasers, more people would have gotten hurt. He would've probably kicked and punched a few more people; and the cops would subsequently beat the snot out of the back of his head courtesy night sticks.

4. Time for my random quote of the day. Ah, here's one:
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Whatever happened to handcuffs?

This just shows that our "police" are often too incompetent to restrain people without excessive methods like tazoring.

They actually had the guy on the ground and had him subdued, and brought in the tasor FOR NO REASON other than they had said they were going to tasor him in the first place.

You didn't really see anything though. You didn't see what he was doing on the ground. You didn't see, and you don't know, what happened. He might as well have punched 3 of those cops upside the face, you wouldn't be able to tell.
Also, you try holding someone down and trying not to hurt him while he could care less if you die. It might sound easy, but it sure isn't.

5. List of crimes:
Disturbing the peace.
Resisting arrest.
Being a total retard pain in the butt to everyone.

6. My point:
There's no reason the police should have to accommodate this pain in the butt. There's no reason Kerry or the people in the audience should have to accommodate this pain in the butt. There's no reason anybody should have had to listen to that guy's stupidity for as long as they did. There's no reason the guy and the girl with the camera should have did what they did. There's no reason that idiot, or for that matter the idiot with the camera, shouldn't have been tasered.


Edit: Yes, I know being a total retard pain in the butt to everyone isn't a crime. Of course, the whole criminal system is just designed to formalize that criteria, IMO.



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