Details on why Antec is inferior?

Nothing to worry about.

Interesting.

One burner, one reader. It's just easier to burn direct to disk that way.

<3

No, no, and more no.
Muskin is quality I admit but they aren't much for price. The OCZ kit is a trusted brand at a price you cannot beat. Wanna spend more for nothing more than a brand name? Be my guest.Depends. You can find local products cheaper, depending on local circumstances.

Then enjoy overpaying. Especially if you choose EVGA. Giga makes good boards. Go for a nice P45 from them, but it wont be cheap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128372 Not so bad for 95$ but I got a DFI board (Best of the best) for about 80$ open box.More likely to get a Gigabyte board. I've heard that only high end DFI boards are good. The rest in comparison... bleh.
And intel only makes boards for their processors.

The E7xxx CPUs can clock more than 3.2 on a bad day. The E7200 could do 3.2 in its sleep. And quad cores are not optimal for gaming. And they wont be for another 2-3 years. People don't seem to realize how hard it is to make a game that takes advantage of 4 cores, much less 4 cores with 2 threads each like the i7.I'm going to have the computer well over 2-3 years. Go go Quad. I heard that the Q6400 (or was it 6600) was garbage.

So get some filters mate.Where to.

More than nothing wrong, the Xigma is a solid performer. You won't be disappointed.We'll see about that.

Isn't that like 500$ USD? =/The current exchange rate I think is $1USD:$0.85CDN.

ASUS has some nice 20-24" monitors on the egg. They're solid, I'd buy one myself. ASUS made my GFX card which I got open box btw, and I could not be happier. I admit some of their high end (X48 or X58) mobos have problems, but as for everything else, they're solid. I stand behind them.The last monitor that IP showed seemed nice. $200USD is a bit pricey. But I'll see what I can incorporate.

Wireless is overrated but do as you will.Too many wires to hassle with. So what if there is a 3ms wait time?

Two nice choices.
I'd recommend you grab a nice Sound Blaster Audigy like this here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102012
For 35$, can you really go wrong? I use a similar SB card and its a BIG improvement over my onboard.
HOLD ON.
I just remembered I am not recommending Creative products anymore after they sabotaged their own drivers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829270006 will work the same instead and you wont be giving money to a company out to screw you over.Sound Card. Funfunfun.

Always a killer.Yup. I'll see if I can make more space with my budget.

The Antec case offers inferior design and cooling performance in comparison. The case also informs everyone that you are a PC hispter who cares more about how it looks than how it preforms. In short, it makes me hate you and never want to help you ever again..

The Q6600 isn't worth it's price. Currently, for quad cores, its the Q9550 or go home. And it is EXPENSIVE. Luckily you can just throw it in and it'll mesh with the rest of your build, CPU cooler, mobo everything.

DFI is amazing, I have their top P35 board and I love it. I can't speak of their lowend products because I've never bought one. But for me, its DFI or nothing, after being burned by MSI twice I will never buy a non-DFI board.

You can make filters out of anything, I know some people use material you get at pet stores for fishtanks or something, I forget the details. It's just a wire mesh really. The fans are worth it though, they'll keep the case nice and cool man. Unless you get the Antec case, in which case, stay the fuck away from me or I'll rip your eyes out.

Monitor wise don't go with anything under 22". Try to get the highest resolution with the lowest latency possible.

Anyone else have good suggestions?

Also, what does it mean when Newegg says free shipping?

I'm greatly annoyed by my MSI video card. I probably won't buy any MSI product for a long, long time.
I grew to hate Western Digital 12 years ago for their crappy harddrives and even though they apparently got a lot better, I'm still reluctant.

I was looking filters up awhile ago because I hate the dust. One site recommended panty hose. I might try that.
/googles again

Exactly that, free shipping.


Edit:
http://www.computerairfilter.com/Filter_materials.htm
http://www.purapc.com/

Might try the fabric sheets actually.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on May 19 2009, 8:23 pm by isolatedpurity.

I just learned that Newegg doesn't ship to Canada. What now?

http://www.newegg.ca/

Do prices on Newegg get cheaper during back to school season, or any specific time?

Since you wanted my input:

~~~ Processor ~~~
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz 3MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core ( link ) = $120
or
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core ( link ) = $170
$50 for the extra 3mb cache, if you can personally justify it. You can easily overclock either. I would probably go with Ex's recommendation with the E7400 and save that money for some other area.

~~~ CPU Cooler ~~~
Artic 7 link
or
XIGMATEK Rifle link
or
Thermalake 120 link

~~~ Motherboard ~~~
You know what, I seriously don't fucking know. Prices seemed to have jumped up to start supporting ddr3 and higher ddr2 ram as well as the Pentiu processor. There doesn't really seem to be any good obvious choices. After looking for like 15 minutes, I chose this:
ASUS P5Q SE/R LGA 775 Intel P45 ( link ) = $105 - $15MIR

~~~ Ram ~~~
OCZ doesn't seem to have the greatest ram at ddr1066.
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit ( link ) = $60
Or your muskin. Price is the same for the same type. I would check mobo specs to see what's officially supported.

~~~ Hard drive ~~~
For me personally, I would select a smaller system drive and use your current drives / extra new drives for storage of files. 500 gigs is too big for a system drive. Speed is the main factor here, not storage capacity. It all comes to preference though. Me = One system drive, everything else in external enclosures with fans. That way, I can also reformat it easily. However, the price difference between a 500 gig harddrive and same brand/type 160 gig harddrive is small. Really up to what you need as far as storage goes.
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10000 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s ( link ) = $80 - $20MIR
Overkill: SSD flash harddrive. Newegg had a shell shocker deal on them the other day. I'm waiting till they advance a little more.
Ex's single platter Seagate is nice as well. <3 seagate.

~~~ Video card ~~~
XFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 ( link ) = $140
IDK yet if I can personally recommend. Waiting for mine to be shipped to me. I'm kinda a nvidia fan from past great experiences (except my current shit MSI card) and slightly weaker experiences with older Radeon cards. I guess ATI stepped their game up, so we'll see.

~~~ PSU ~~~
Depends on your harddrive usage from before and whether or not you are really going to waste money buying two dvd drives. Really wish I knew what you do with your computer. I run almost everything from the 2nd internal harddrive cd wise, because I hate dvds and dvd drives and they hate me. They always fail me. Always.
Eh, screw it:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V ( link ) = $100 - $20MIR

~~~ DVD / CD ~~~
The fuck? Where did my ASUS drive go? It was nice and cheap and even had lightscribe.
LG Black 22X ( link ) = $24
Didn't look up the differences with the two LG models. One had free shipping so I went with that.

~~~ Case ~~~
Really a great matter of preference. Just pick something with some good fan slots and bonus if it has a side vent. Window panel is preference. Looks is preference. Front jacks is preference. Tool-less case is nice, but can be annoying with some non-standard items (my card reader isn't long enough to use all the pins).

~~~ Case Fans ~~~
Go to newegg -> fans -> sort by what you need (usually 80mm / 120mm) and best rating. Pick whatever you want as far as noise / looks. Go for air flow especially on the 120mm fans (intake in the front, out on the back.
Edit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185054
Pros: Free shipping (cheaper), more airflow Cons: Louder
vs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185060

Some good fans with LEDs if you care or fan controllers if you desire. Anything with ~100-130 CFM.

So as you asked. Ex's setup is nice. OCZ ram at 1066 has worse timings than G.Skill and muskin.
I think Ex is a bit of an OCZ fan boy ;o ;o ;o



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Total: ~$670 without case / fans / thermal paste Shipping was only $8 to me, would definitely be more with a case. I would recommend the free shipping 120mm fans with extra air flow.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on May 19 2009, 11:09 pm by isolatedpurity.

Excalibur always seems to cheap out on power supplies.
NEVER cheap out on power supplies

Go with IP's suggestion or something else with 80Plus

I doubt he'll need it though. I wanted to suggest a thermalake 500W PSU. I try to avoid Rosewell brands, I don't know why.

The power supplies I recommend are adequate. They aren't top of the line, but they'll do their job. The only time you need a top rate power supply is when you are pushing its max output (500w load on a 550w for example), the systems we're doing here are well below the limit of the PSU being used.