Anyone have a list of all of the units and their movement speeds in unts of Terrain Squares? I'd test, but I'd have to test for every single one, and it would be very time-consuming if there's already someone who's got one. I checked the wiki, all to no avail.

Find the speed of one in squares, find its speed according to DatEdit or some list, and then just do algebra for the rest of them.

Well, Thats what i need... The DatEdit list. I don't know where one is. I can easily just do the algebra, i just don't have the numbers to start the algebra off in the first place. Do you know where one is/have one?

download datedit from falk's homepage

Here's a good list, it'd be annoying to have to search for each unit in DatEdit.

Ok, I've never seen this weird program.... I'm having trouble understanding it...

Here are the Stats for an Overlord:
Top Speed: 213
Acceleration : 27

The list Falk gave me is entirely based upon the Unupgraded Zerg Overlord. If I can just figure out how to convert this (Whatever units it is) to Terrain Squares / Second (Or Milisecond, I dont care which), THen I can just convert the rest.

DatEdit only gives speeds for units using flingy movement, but lots of units use iscript.bin controlled movement.

The measurements are in clicks, or pixels per second.

I think.

Figure out how big a terrain square is in pixels and voila.

a square has 32 pixels

So an overlord should move about 6.7 squares per second...
I'm not sure an overlord without that speed upgrade should move that fast...with the upgrade, I'd say that's reasonable...but I don't think so without...

Uhm I haven't checked what Magicide said, just responded, but when I saw poison's reply I realized something is wrong. Overlords are way slower than almost 7 squares / second.

So I checked the list and the author clearly states that these speeds are relative values based on Overlord's speed. So where do you get the idea from you could convert it in absolute values (time/distance)?
You could, however, if you knew how long it takes an overlord to cross a tile...

.83 pixels/frame
19.96 pixels/s fastest
12.47 pixels/s game


213 doesn't mean pixels per second. It's used in a formula to develop the rate at which the unit increases position.

Lol, of course blizzard does everything based on animspeed. To find the rate in pixels/frame, divide the datedit number by 256.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Apr 7 2009, 11:00 pm by Zachary Taylor.

I found many things in that list to be fallacious. Just one example is that zealot/marine/firebat+stim all have the same movement speed, it says the marine/bat are faster.

exactly my reasoning behind http://www.staredit.net/topic/6791/

Which means if the units flingy has "Move Control" set to "IScript.bin Control", you would have to open the units iscript entry and calculate the movement speed by taking into account waits and move opcodes, which i have no idea how to do.

This is not correct, Top Speed is measured as "Speed*(320/3)" (and if anyone cared PyDAT does these conversions for you). Also, if the unit isn't already at its top speed or its nearing the end of its route, you would also have to take into account the Acceleration and Halt Distance (which is given as "Distance*256)

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 8 2009, 5:09 pm by poiuy_qwert.

Oh, so a guardian travels at 6 pixels/frame? Why did my guardian , after moving 32 pixels, take 794 hyper triggers to go 3970 pixels before stopping 32 pixels later?

I'm pretty sure some units use a different animation speed, due to blizzard being gay, but most are probably 256.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 8 2009, 10:20 pm by Zachary Taylor.

Ok, So Now I'm lost. All this shit about Dat-Edit... and this stuff about ... Well, Modding and Movements, and Flingies, and ... Iscript.bin control are all really foreign...

Can someone just tell me how to easily convert any list number into a full on Terrain Square Movement?

Overlord Speed:
20 pixels / second on fastest

1 second on fastest = 24 frames = 12 hyper triggers
1 square = 32 pixels

Do the algebra you were talking about man.

Just to make sure, without the upgrade, right? (referring to x1.00 in the list above)

yeah. No idea what it is when upgraded, though I could check by editing my test map.

213 top speed = 213/256 px/frame = 213*24/256 px/s = 19.97 px/s