Looking good, I know some other people who were trying to make a very similar zelda map, hopefully you don't drop it like it seems they did. If you want testing, feedback or ideas. I'm here for ya.
Edit: I just played the map, Holy crap, I think your one of the two guys I remember making this. The waterfall triggered my memory, I remember when I first saw it, it was just a line of water. I told you to add the hallucination puff and observers I think. Btw you might wanna change them to wraiths or give the obs speed upgrade.
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I still say that the NES Zelda is my favorite one. I looked at the screenshot of the terrain and was impressed with the look and accuracy of it.
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I like how you made Hyrule field large, not just focusing on dungeons and such.
He didn't "make" it large. It is a extremely accruate replica of the overworld in The Legend of Zelda.
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Will this have a hookshot?
There was no hookshot in The Legend of Zelda.
This looks really good. It'd be incredible if someone remade Oracles or Links Awakening like this.
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This looks really interesting. More information please
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Question: Have you scaled the screens to be the size of SC ones, and will center the screens like Zelda games do?
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I have to suggest making the transitions smoother by having the unit walk into the new frame, rather than
just being teleported in.
Other than that, this map looks like it'll turn out awesome.
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Responses below. Updated the map, meant to reply earlier but I got distracted testing things.
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First time attempting to make a zelda conversion.
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The terrain is nearly exact, a few places had to be modified, namely if the center of the tile was completely inaccessible, or a tile's edge caused movement problems. Most noticeable where pools of water would normally be.
Basically my goal is to recreate The Legend of Zelda as accurately as possible on starcraft, this includes enemy behaviors, item mechanics, and movement. Though not finished due to a bug, my Pac-Man map had the same goal.
The number of tiles actually matched up perfectly when I made the terrain, and the screens do center as the game did, because of the HUD though you can see a portion of the tile below you when exploring.
EDITED: I'll consider it. The current reason for the teleportation is that certain areas of the terrain you'll be able to change, via bombs or burning. Once you've opened a hidden area via said methods, whenever you move to that location again it will move you to a nearly identical tile but with the terrain change. Just to clarify, do you mean simply removing the actions that move your unit and leaving the center screen action?
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You knew it was coming, anyway good luck on this, tired of seeing that crappy Zelda Ocornia of time map, and its HORRIBLE accuracy toward its actually game.
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Will this include the dungeons from the game as well? Have you found a way to replicate the "Sword-beams at full health" mechanic?
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Apart from some minor movement bugs, it's really something. It's a really good example of using the new EUD to detect key presses. In single player, the screen actually slides to each area, but the mouse gets in the way. In multiplayer the screen teleports, but the mouse can be moved. I hope this can be played in a replay where game actions are not required. This way friends can chat while playing individually.
I suppose this is something to report?
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Some suggestions for the movement:
+ Give more control over the movement, instead of moving ~1 tile for each key press detection, try moving as small a space as possible.
+ Move a unit to determine if the terrain is walkable. Center on this unit and move there instead. (This will avoid the player's unit AI to try and "walk around")
+ Of course, order the unit to move to the next screen instead of teleporting it. (Disable input during this process)
Also, should those goliaths be facing forward? Move them one tile back for player 9, and order each one up and give it to player 12. Set invincibility if it's not already.
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Wow! I'm really impressed with the terrain. This map looks like it's going to be great! Good luck!
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@HailFire: Yes, dungeon interiors are next after shop/cave interiors and exterior to interior teleportation. I plan on adding every feature from the game I can, including the sword-beam.
@Heinermann: Gives you much more freedom than screen detection. All of the triggers in the map currently can be switched to 7 players and still work with no errors, and I've considered releasing a multiplayer map with non-shared EUDs and a replay to play it with but I never got around some of
these problems. The Stuck! appears if the Anti-Freeze trigger (misaligned grid) ever activates, one or two displays of Stuck! are fine, but if it continues to spam it then you really are stuck.
I've actually got on my todo list 'test mobile grid based on interceptors' to see how small I can make it. Going to add the burrowed unit bit once I've got exterior to interior movement done. The teleportation to next screen is there so that I can add changeable terrain, most of the caves you see on the map right now you'd have to bomb first to access. Added Goliath direction to list things to fix.
@Echo && Dark_Marine: Thanks.
EDIT: I've been misreading the screen transition suggestions
. Once I add the changeable terrain I'll change the transistions.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Feb 24 2009, 10:30 am by Elvang.
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I've actually got on my todo list 'test mobile grid based on interceptors' to see how small I can make it. Going to add the burrowed unit bit once I've got exterior to interior movement done. The teleportation to next screen is there so that I can add changeable terrain, most of the caves you see on the map right now you'd have to bomb first to access. Added Goliath direction to list things to fix.
Here, I'll save you some time.
The first unit is created exactly in the location center; the units after that displace and are snapped to a ¼x¼ tile grid- placed progressively counterclockwise (at first down) along this ¼x¼ tile grid; which is why where it begins matters.
Which is why you can never get more defined than a ¼x¼ tile (8-pixel) grid with mobile grids.
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Will upload map/update 1st post later; changed screen transitions, tried different methods of getting Goliaths to face a certain direction (none work 100%), and exterior to interior is partially done (upload when this is finished). Waterfall effect has been removed for the time being until I can mess with it later and while moving around on the map 'Stuck!' should never appear again.
Anyone have suggestions for getting the Goliaths to face straight down? Ordering them to move doesn't work if there is a unit near them, not necessarily touching each other. Tried having each Goliath individually attacking a ground/air unit, they will turn and face the general down direction, but several Goliaths will get stuck turning and never attack the unit. Changing direction via attacks also takes ~8 trigger cycles per Goliath for ground units, ~14 for air.
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Anyone have suggestions for getting the Goliaths to face straight down? Ordering them to move doesn't work if there is a unit near them, not necessarily touching each other. Tried having each Goliath individually attacking a ground/air unit, they will turn and face the general down direction, but several Goliaths will get stuck turning and never attack the unit. Changing direction via attacks also takes ~8 trigger cycles per Goliath for ground units, ~14 for air.
@Bold Why's that?
I could get them to face left or up but not down by any conventional method.
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As far as I can tell, the AI thinks that there isn't room for the Goliath. The only Goliaths that wouldn't move were ones that either had a neighbor to the right, left, or down and to one of those directions.
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