I'm sick and tired of everyone always saying, "Oo is only good for shitty maps." I try to tell myself that this is not true, but when I think about all the maps that we've made, it is a fact. Almost all of the maps ever made in Oo are defense maps, and that's really lame. It's not that hard to make something else, so we should pull away from the defenses and try something new.

I completely disagree, Dem0n.

While, over the past few years, the majority of our clan's maps have been defenses, they are nowhere near the entire composition of our entire map arsenal. There have been numerous Bounds, RPGs, Arenas, and everything in-between.

...how can you say that our maps are of 'shitty' quality? Every map we make has serious effort and thought put into it. I know this because we have a thorough system for recruiting members -- now, I know we have been a wee bit lenient recently, but there are still standards that we continue and will always uphold.

I can agree with you on one thing, though -- our members need to widen their map-making genres a bit.

Oh gee weez I leave for a wee bit and dem0n has to act like me...

Do I have to come back and make a killer map to shut you up dem0n ?

... shit I just revealed my secret ....

I could be known our clan since I had played the maps of Oo.Vic.oO.
And all of them, what I played, were Defenses.
Seriously many Koreans said that "Clan Oo is always making some great defense maps. I'm so excited about next one!"

Of course some maps are not really cool. it could be happened all the time. Cuz' we're not perfect.
But you know, the true thing is we always trying to make some maps which are of great quality.
I want you to know that what we've made is seriously awesome!

p.s. I am working on an AoS map. Do expect it!

I don't think that our defenses are shitty, but I'm beginning to agree with others that we mostly make defenses. I don't know about the old members, but I haven't seen anything but a defense from the newer members lately. If we're going to claim Oo as one of the best map-making clans on USEast, we're going to need to start having more variety in our maps.

And Twitch, get back on b.net!

demon that was quite naive.. People on starcraft now a days are usually 12 and younger and 89% of the time just jealous of Oo's past success. I have not seen one defense map made in a long time (Except for jamals and twitches, still made awhile back).. Every map i usually see are artistic ways of bounds, minigames, and "other" maps. Agent, efog, sly, solar, etc.. have all proven your statement wrong..

But.. Defenses do have to go.. There are to many and the point has been made. Noone seems to enjoy the triggering of them anyways.. They [bnet] all want something simple.

Our clan made the maps that people wanted during that specific Sc era.. Do not be influenced by the masses of children on a game.

Also.. Starcraft is an old game.. We have nothing to prove anymore..

Just make what you want and have fun. (just no noob maps, everyone here knows the basics i am sure..)

People such as cool, leloth(unsure spelling), D-m have not proven that to me but i am sure they can do some fun stuff..

Does this mean I need to make a triumphant comeback and finish "Cave Adventure," "Rocket Mania," and my crazy mod single-player RPG thing?

I do have a PC now, so perhaps that concept wouldn't be too far off.

Awesome!!! yay for pc!! finish those maps

ok ok Demon Demon, you are so young, so ignorant. First off as Snipe already said most people who play starcraft are 12 years old and under and in fact are big noobs. Now here's the thing with noobs, noobs don't want cool innovative new maps with advanced triggering systems and functioning game play. If you make a map that requires a tutorial to know how to play, forget it, its already too complex for them they'll be too fucking stupid to know how your map works. A perfect example of this would be SOLAR and my self's Cat n Mouse Perfect. We tried so hard to make it noob proof and they still go "OMFG WTF THIS MAP IS SO GAY" followed by "12yearoldnoob has left the game." This is why you never see any recently made maps being played allot. Noobs just want the same old shitty games, like sunk d, cat n mouse jungle, all the madness games, snipers, simple arena games like wall ball ect... Notice how all these maps share a common trait? Simplicity. As a map maker this is now my main goal for mapping, simplicity. Anyways, so if ever you hear anyone trashing an Oo map just ignore them, because they are a 12 year old noob and it's not like they even have an editor downloaded so fuck them.

Now as for defense maps I do agree that too many of the um.. newer members (I won't point fingers) are in fact guilty of making lesser quality ones but I don't think we need to get into that. We all need some time to experiment with map making to truly master the art, even if it does take some crappy defense maps to get you there.

Lethoth and Dungeon-Master both joined Mp). What fags. >.>

P.S. I hate SEN, so I probably won't be on the forums much. Oh well, dealing with these admins and members *cough*excalibur[FAG]*cough* is too damn annoying for me.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Feb 5 2009, 12:50 am by Dem0nS1ayer.

Okay two things wrong with what you just said there... One so what if they joined a dead clan? Hell DM came from Mp) in the first place okay? soooo BACK OFF you know nothing about mp anyways.

Second calling Excalibur a fag(ofcourse I find the word fag improper to use as it is offensive...) is kinda true.... He is bi and if you weren't such a lets say snuck up he would respect you more...

So uhmm Please watch what you say/type before you do it...

Try taking your own advice Twitch. A large portion of your speech was thoughtless and vague. D-M Has no proven himself at all.. You saying he came from clan mp means very little to me. I did not deny the fact they are good at map making, It is just when i ask to see something or when they are around they don't make maps. If they are great, i just haven't seen it.

Amen.

I have an idea.... you could make bounds.... and make it n rpg with a story some how!

o and by the way hi.

Back to Obstacle Onslaught, it is.